But PP created the rift, and it's really up to PP to fix it. Tell PP to get in touch with Broseph and work this shit out. PP needs to man up and take the punch or whatever he's got coming to him.

I doubt that the kind of person who would refuse to come to his brother's wedding over a disagreement with someone else would accept an apology. But, PP should do it anyway.

Learnt this weekend that sailors actually schtupped dugongs.

What is wrong with people? Leave the poor marine mammals alone! Why can't these sailors develop a perfectly good toy boat fetish?!

I doubt that the kind of person who would refuse to come to his brother's wedding over a disagreement with someone else would accept an apology.

It wasn't just a disagreement though, he doesn't want to hang out with the guy who nailed his girlfriend.

I think Broseph is being a bit over the top with "him or me at the wedding" since its been a decade -- but I can understand him still disliking the guy and really not wanting to be around him.

In my experience, real apologies (less "sorry, dude get over it", and more, "dude, I was an asshole. there's no excuse. if you have to hate me forever, I understand. But what I did has always bothered me and I wanted you to know that. I hope one day we can be cool again") can break a grudge big time. Sometimes.

It wasn't just a disagreement though, he doesn't want to hang out with the guy who nailed his girlfriend.

He doesn't have to. It's a wedding. There will be plenty of other people there. It's not like asking him to a dinner party with 6 people.

In my experience, real apologies (less "sorry, dude get over it", and more, "dude, I was an asshole. there's no excuse. if you have to hate me forever, I understand. But what I did has always bothered me and I wanted you to know that. I hope one day we can be cool again") can break a grudge big time. Sometimes.

but only if the person being apologized to is receptive. Doesn't sound that way to me. But, maybe I'm underestimating Broseph.

Poor bon bon, I'm guessing you weren't actually trying to solicit advice on the matter.

Broseph is totally being a selfish ass. But PP created the rift, and it's really up to PP to fix it. Tell PP to get in touch with Broseph and work this shit out. PP needs to man up and take the punch or whatever he's got coming to him.

Yeah, that's not a bad point. Not getting to come to the wedding may be the whatever, though.

He doesn't have to. It's a wedding. There will be plenty of other people there. It's not like asking him to a dinner party with 6 people.

That's exactly what I was going to say!

It wasn't just a disagreement though, he doesn't want to hang out with the guy who nailed his girlfriend.

He doesn't have to. It's a wedding. There will be plenty of other people there. It's not like asking him to a dinner party with 6 people.

Doesn't want to see him then. Be around him. Whatever.

I agree he's being a big fat baby about it, but I can understand his feelings.

And an apology from someone you simply don't want to see or speak to or any of the above? Sort of pointless.

Ugh. It's a mess to be sure. Poor Bon Bon and Bob Bob.

Poor bon bon, I'm guessing you weren't actually trying to solicit advice on the matter.

No, I mean, I do know Broseph and PP and have given it a lot of thought already, I wasn't soliciting advice. But I don't mind people discussing it; it's just the kind of thing buffistas would discuss. And maybe I do need someone else's POV. So go forth and speculate.