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'Just Rewards (2)'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


shrift - May 13, 2008 12:26:59 pm PDT #6605 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Learnt this weekend that sailors actually schtupped dugongs.

What is wrong with people? Leave the poor marine mammals alone! Why can't these sailors develop a perfectly good toy boat fetish?!


Trudy Booth - May 13, 2008 12:29:17 pm PDT #6606 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I doubt that the kind of person who would refuse to come to his brother's wedding over a disagreement with someone else would accept an apology.

It wasn't just a disagreement though, he doesn't want to hang out with the guy who nailed his girlfriend.

I think Broseph is being a bit over the top with "him or me at the wedding" since its been a decade -- but I can understand him still disliking the guy and really not wanting to be around him.


Wolfram - May 13, 2008 12:30:27 pm PDT #6607 of 10001
Visilurking

In my experience, real apologies (less "sorry, dude get over it", and more, "dude, I was an asshole. there's no excuse. if you have to hate me forever, I understand. But what I did has always bothered me and I wanted you to know that. I hope one day we can be cool again") can break a grudge big time. Sometimes.


Vortex - May 13, 2008 12:33:26 pm PDT #6608 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

It wasn't just a disagreement though, he doesn't want to hang out with the guy who nailed his girlfriend.

He doesn't have to. It's a wedding. There will be plenty of other people there. It's not like asking him to a dinner party with 6 people.

In my experience, real apologies (less "sorry, dude get over it", and more, "dude, I was an asshole. there's no excuse. if you have to hate me forever, I understand. But what I did has always bothered me and I wanted you to know that. I hope one day we can be cool again") can break a grudge big time. Sometimes.

but only if the person being apologized to is receptive. Doesn't sound that way to me. But, maybe I'm underestimating Broseph.


Burrell - May 13, 2008 12:33:55 pm PDT #6609 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Poor bon bon, I'm guessing you weren't actually trying to solicit advice on the matter.


brenda m - May 13, 2008 12:34:02 pm PDT #6610 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Broseph is totally being a selfish ass. But PP created the rift, and it's really up to PP to fix it. Tell PP to get in touch with Broseph and work this shit out. PP needs to man up and take the punch or whatever he's got coming to him.

Yeah, that's not a bad point. Not getting to come to the wedding may be the whatever, though.


Jesse - May 13, 2008 12:36:54 pm PDT #6611 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

He doesn't have to. It's a wedding. There will be plenty of other people there. It's not like asking him to a dinner party with 6 people.

That's exactly what I was going to say!


Trudy Booth - May 13, 2008 12:37:46 pm PDT #6612 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It wasn't just a disagreement though, he doesn't want to hang out with the guy who nailed his girlfriend.

He doesn't have to. It's a wedding. There will be plenty of other people there. It's not like asking him to a dinner party with 6 people.

Doesn't want to see him then. Be around him. Whatever.

I agree he's being a big fat baby about it, but I can understand his feelings.

And an apology from someone you simply don't want to see or speak to or any of the above? Sort of pointless.

Ugh. It's a mess to be sure. Poor Bon Bon and Bob Bob.


bon bon - May 13, 2008 12:41:00 pm PDT #6613 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Poor bon bon, I'm guessing you weren't actually trying to solicit advice on the matter.

No, I mean, I do know Broseph and PP and have given it a lot of thought already, I wasn't soliciting advice. But I don't mind people discussing it; it's just the kind of thing buffistas would discuss. And maybe I do need someone else's POV. So go forth and speculate.


Vortex - May 13, 2008 12:45:08 pm PDT #6614 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

The thing is, I can understand how Broseph feels. If the woman that cheated with my boyfriend was going to be at my sister's wedding, I wouldn't be pleased. I'd probably still be a little pissed at my sister for being her friend. BUT, I would say "I really would rather not see that bitch, but I want you guys to be happy on your wedding day. Just don't sit her at my table and tell her not to talk to me"