Oh, Pacey! You blind idiot. Can't you see she doesn't love you?

Spike ,'Help'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Burrell - May 13, 2008 12:12:36 pm PDT #6599 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Okay that photo makes me love Edward Gorey even more!


Vortex - May 13, 2008 12:17:48 pm PDT #6600 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

McCain's Ministerial Troubles

WASHINGTON (May 13) - John Hagee, an influential Texas televangelist who endorsed John McCain, apologized to Catholics Tuesday for his stinging criticism of the Roman Catholic Church and for having "emphasized the darkest chapters in the history of Catholic and Protestant relations with the Jews."

Hagee's support for McCain has drawn cries of outrage from some Catholic leaders who have called on McCain to reject Hagee's endorsement. The likely Republican nominee has said he does not agree with some of Hagee's past comments, but did not reject his support.


Wolfram - May 13, 2008 12:19:00 pm PDT #6601 of 10001
Visilurking

From the limited facts, here's my two cents.

Broseph is totally being a selfish ass. But PP created the rift, and it's really up to PP to fix it. Tell PP to get in touch with Broseph and work this shit out. PP needs to man up and take the punch or whatever he's got coming to him.


sarameg - May 13, 2008 12:19:15 pm PDT #6602 of 10001

die, tuesday, die.


sarameg - May 13, 2008 12:20:38 pm PDT #6603 of 10001

Some people don't let go of a grudge. Ever.


Vortex - May 13, 2008 12:22:17 pm PDT #6604 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

But PP created the rift, and it's really up to PP to fix it. Tell PP to get in touch with Broseph and work this shit out. PP needs to man up and take the punch or whatever he's got coming to him.

I doubt that the kind of person who would refuse to come to his brother's wedding over a disagreement with someone else would accept an apology. But, PP should do it anyway.


shrift - May 13, 2008 12:26:59 pm PDT #6605 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Learnt this weekend that sailors actually schtupped dugongs.

What is wrong with people? Leave the poor marine mammals alone! Why can't these sailors develop a perfectly good toy boat fetish?!


Trudy Booth - May 13, 2008 12:29:17 pm PDT #6606 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I doubt that the kind of person who would refuse to come to his brother's wedding over a disagreement with someone else would accept an apology.

It wasn't just a disagreement though, he doesn't want to hang out with the guy who nailed his girlfriend.

I think Broseph is being a bit over the top with "him or me at the wedding" since its been a decade -- but I can understand him still disliking the guy and really not wanting to be around him.


Wolfram - May 13, 2008 12:30:27 pm PDT #6607 of 10001
Visilurking

In my experience, real apologies (less "sorry, dude get over it", and more, "dude, I was an asshole. there's no excuse. if you have to hate me forever, I understand. But what I did has always bothered me and I wanted you to know that. I hope one day we can be cool again") can break a grudge big time. Sometimes.


Vortex - May 13, 2008 12:33:26 pm PDT #6608 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

It wasn't just a disagreement though, he doesn't want to hang out with the guy who nailed his girlfriend.

He doesn't have to. It's a wedding. There will be plenty of other people there. It's not like asking him to a dinner party with 6 people.

In my experience, real apologies (less "sorry, dude get over it", and more, "dude, I was an asshole. there's no excuse. if you have to hate me forever, I understand. But what I did has always bothered me and I wanted you to know that. I hope one day we can be cool again") can break a grudge big time. Sometimes.

but only if the person being apologized to is receptive. Doesn't sound that way to me. But, maybe I'm underestimating Broseph.