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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Polter-Cow - Apr 13, 2008 8:07:02 pm PDT #1521 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Why aren't you people doing your taxes online?

I used TaxCut. It's what I used last year, too; it's always given me the best results.


aurelia - Apr 13, 2008 8:16:47 pm PDT #1522 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

The last time I tried TurboTax it took much longer than with paper and pen. I also have more than a dozen employers.

I will be paying my IL taxes with check number 666. This amuses me.


Susan W. - Apr 13, 2008 8:31:15 pm PDT #1523 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Random research question of the night:

Suppose you wanted to render someone unconscious for an hour or two, but would prefer not to kill him or permanently damage his brain. What part of his head do you club him over--top, side, back of head, forehead?


§ ita § - Apr 13, 2008 8:59:26 pm PDT #1524 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can you get the relevant info from the website, even if the actual form isn't there?

I'll probably end up doing the math. But not today. Head hurts. Am pouty.

No Austen tonight--a Room With A View adaptation instead. I have to admit that I've completely forgotten the 1985 movie (I was having HBC issues at the time), but this does not end the same way. I checked with IMDB just to make sure. In fact, this adaptation had so little fire I wasn't sure who she was supposed to really even like.

Susan, I have no idea. In all of the head thwacking that happens at krav, no one goes out for more than a few minutes. I'm not sure if it's a calculable science.


Susan W. - Apr 13, 2008 9:03:15 pm PDT #1525 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Well, I'm mainly looking to avoid, "What, they hit him THERE? How is he not dead or a vegetable?"


Sean K - Apr 13, 2008 9:05:35 pm PDT #1526 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Random research question of the night:

Suppose you wanted to render someone unconscious for an hour or two, but would prefer not to kill him or permanently damage his brain. What part of his head do you club him over--top, side, back of head, forehead?

That kind of unconsciousness from physical violence to the cranium really only ever happens in the movies (or in books). It's a common enough trope, I suppose you could get away with it, but I would strongly recommend finding some other solution to your character's dilemma.


Susan W. - Apr 13, 2008 9:14:13 pm PDT #1527 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Well, I mainly just wanted to render him quiet and passive so the people who've just captured him can take him to where they're going to hold him captive without him kicking up a ruckus or trying to get away. Though, you know, I guess one of them could just hold a pistol to his head or something.


Sean K - Apr 13, 2008 9:21:56 pm PDT #1528 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Well, I mainly just wanted to render him quiet and passive so the people who've just captured him can take him to where they're going to hold him captive without him kicking up a ruckus or trying to get away.

Give the guy a crack to the head to knock him out for a few minutes, then have him hog-tied for transport. Or even just have the character be conscious but docile for the trip -- a blow to the head can take the fight out of you for a while, even if you were only down for a minute or two. Possibly even have one of the head-crackers acknowledge that it's an imprecise method of pacification, and that it's easy to accidentally kill someone by hitting them anywhere on the head


Cashmere - Apr 13, 2008 9:31:53 pm PDT #1529 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

My trivia team came in 22 out of over 400 teams. Not too shabby. I even managed to pull a few answers for them (earning me a "Good job, Noobie!").


§ ita § - Apr 13, 2008 10:05:16 pm PDT #1530 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"What, they hit him THERE? How is he not dead or a vegetable?"

It's not about where you hit someone, it's more about how hard. Sean's right--you're not going to be able to get anything on a scale larger than minutes out of unconsciousness itself. If you want him inactive you're going to need to do something else.

Ah, great. It's not so much the interest that's the barrier--I have to account for the unemployment I received this year. That's going to be its own little challenge to research.