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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 14, 2009 7:38:13 am PDT #9986 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I dunno, I'd rather be left with the Repo Man/Pulp Fiction cliffhanger and free to imagine the characters being snap-evolved into glowy space fetuses in keeping with the show's obsession with babies than have it cut off at some random point in the narrative.


beekaytee - Sep 14, 2009 8:17:05 am PDT #9987 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Well now, I can't argue with that. Very good point.


§ ita § - Sep 14, 2009 11:23:10 am PDT #9988 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

cut off at some random point in the narrative

Feels like a random point in the narrative to me. All I know that I didn't before is that they get to look. Eh.

Time to move up north, and then to ABC HQ. Not my favourite of series, but I do really want to know where in the hell they were going with this.

I liked Wass and Paula this week. I liked Zoe and Donner this week. I though Jen was an idiot who deserved to fry in the radiation. It's an illegal rabbit that you didn't even remember the first time round, and you weren't even close to having enough time.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 14, 2009 11:27:48 am PDT #9989 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

That's true... the "not without my babies!" reaction might make sense even in the face of certain death if actual children were involved, but a rabbit fetus and assorted cell samples are not worth dying of radiation poisoning for.


le nubian - Sep 14, 2009 11:32:25 am PDT #9990 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I agree. Complete nonsense.

And...correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't she have enough cell matter for more rabbits?


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 14, 2009 12:06:15 pm PDT #9991 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I gathered that her ova and sperm cell samples for future experiments might have been at risk too, but even so not worth frying over.

The fractal garden was the first example of Beta doing something big that completely defies the laws of physics, right? Hundreds of kilograms of new organic matter appearing out of nowhere would involve far more energy than that released by a nuclear bomb.


le nubian - Sep 14, 2009 12:15:42 pm PDT #9992 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Beta has done things that defy the laws of biology - he has made the genome of all of the astronauts and Eve the same.

So apparently Beta has now defied physics (I didn't think about it this way Matt, so thanks). It didn't even occur to me how much energy would be involved in that spectacle. I was thinking: how the fuck are they going to clean that up?

So, what's next: violate the laws of chemistry? astronomy?


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 14, 2009 2:38:04 pm PDT #9993 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah, the genetic alterations stuff is weird, but given a sufficiently advanced technology I suppose beaming some kind of radiation that can cause slow genetic changes as well as hallucinations isn't that unbelievable. Unless Beta suddenly lost as much mass as all those plants gained, however, it might as well be yelling "abracadabra!" and waving a magic wand.


le nubian - Sep 14, 2009 3:24:00 pm PDT #9994 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

It isn't slowing genetic changes though is it? That would seem a bit more believable.

But yeah, I think this is magic wand territory.

Maybe the useless astronaut's sleeping quarters are gone...


§ ita § - Sep 14, 2009 3:28:36 pm PDT #9995 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Maybe it has an energy to mass conversion thingummy going on. And it has been able to generate energy just fine.