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Not to harp on a thing you guys saw four hundred years ago or whatever, but...
Jesus! What they did in "Journey's End." I mean, getting the whole Whooby Gang together, that was one thing, but...
...to take away Donna's memories...
I was kinda sad for Rose, a bit more sad for Martha and Jack, all of them for being in love with the Doctor who can't/won't acknowledge their love for him because of what he is and what he does, but...Donna didn't love *him*, not that way. She was, in my opinion, the perfect companion for the Doctor (bearing in mind I have not seen any DW ep. prior to Eccleston in at least 20 years, so immersed in the canon I am not)...because she didn't love the man, she loved the adventure, which is just what he loved, too. She saw through all of his shit and marveled in seeing the universe and was more purely in it for the travel than any other and...it's all gone. She's going to lead...well, my life. A shabby life on Earth, not among the stars. She'll never again be the Donna who grew to completion in the TARDIS, but a stunted, smaller, inexperienced version of herself and....it just tore my heart out.
Maybe just me.
No, most of fandom was pretty pissed at what happened to Donna.
Though I personally believe she can never stay the way she was. She'll still find a way to grow.
Maybe just me.
Not just you. Turn left, Donna! TURN LEFT.
See, I wasn't *pissed* per se. It was just heart-rending (while at the same time being just AWESOME story-telling. That shit took GUTS, friends.)
So much guts that I kinda gotta say: Take THAT, Minear. You bring pain, but...damn.
I want them to go back to Donna somehow, even if it's just seeing her grandfather so that we can find out she's done something with her life and proved her harping mother wrong.
ita,
yes, I believe I knew Beta is in pod 4. I certainly didn't believe Beta was anywhere on Earth any longer, but had been in Eve's flashbacks.
More and more, I come to thinking I'm not wanting to watch Dr Who or Torchwood, at all. I can't bear all this angst and pain in my fantasy. This is the place I go to make the angsty pain go away. I don't want my heart rent in fiction; I already know what that feels like. I don't need schooling in empathy for the human condition. Having bad things happen to characters is one thing; it makes them and their worlds more real, but shit - destroying them is unnecessary. It's cruel to ME, and I don't want to walk into another relationship - even one with a fictional universe - in which I KNOW I'm going to get hurt. I don't care how good the writing is. It isn't worth it, to end up weeping over something that was supposed to give me pleasure.
Just. Fuck that.
I believe I knew Beta is in pod 4
Did they say so, or was it just obvious?
I think Torchwood was mostly worth it, and Dr. Who is definitely worth it--the scare and the humour balance out the angst for me.
Ted was going to Pod 4, I guess maybe I assumed it? If Beta wasn't in there, how was Beta trying to communicate with Ted otherwise?
I don't watch Who, but I didn't think Torchwood was worth it. But, I think I'm in the minority here regarding that so you may want to take my words with a grain of salt.
I actually am now in the place that I wish I had just read about it here and skipped actually watching it.
