I've really got to learn to just do the damage and get out of town. It's the 'stay and gloat' that gets me every time.

Ethan Rayne ,'Potential'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Dana - Sep 09, 2009 3:53:28 pm PDT #9873 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

No, most of fandom was pretty pissed at what happened to Donna.

Though I personally believe she can never stay the way she was. She'll still find a way to grow.


shrift - Sep 09, 2009 3:56:18 pm PDT #9874 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Maybe just me.

Not just you. Turn left, Donna! TURN LEFT.


Miracleman - Sep 09, 2009 4:10:13 pm PDT #9875 of 30001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

See, I wasn't *pissed* per se. It was just heart-rending (while at the same time being just AWESOME story-telling. That shit took GUTS, friends.)

So much guts that I kinda gotta say: Take THAT, Minear. You bring pain, but...damn.


§ ita § - Sep 09, 2009 4:27:55 pm PDT #9876 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I want them to go back to Donna somehow, even if it's just seeing her grandfather so that we can find out she's done something with her life and proved her harping mother wrong.


le nubian - Sep 09, 2009 4:54:42 pm PDT #9877 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita,

yes, I believe I knew Beta is in pod 4. I certainly didn't believe Beta was anywhere on Earth any longer, but had been in Eve's flashbacks.


Zenkitty - Sep 09, 2009 5:08:04 pm PDT #9878 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

More and more, I come to thinking I'm not wanting to watch Dr Who or Torchwood, at all. I can't bear all this angst and pain in my fantasy. This is the place I go to make the angsty pain go away. I don't want my heart rent in fiction; I already know what that feels like. I don't need schooling in empathy for the human condition. Having bad things happen to characters is one thing; it makes them and their worlds more real, but shit - destroying them is unnecessary. It's cruel to ME, and I don't want to walk into another relationship - even one with a fictional universe - in which I KNOW I'm going to get hurt. I don't care how good the writing is. It isn't worth it, to end up weeping over something that was supposed to give me pleasure.

Just. Fuck that.


§ ita § - Sep 09, 2009 5:14:27 pm PDT #9879 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I believe I knew Beta is in pod 4

Did they say so, or was it just obvious?

I think Torchwood was mostly worth it, and Dr. Who is definitely worth it--the scare and the humour balance out the angst for me.


le nubian - Sep 09, 2009 5:18:48 pm PDT #9880 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Ted was going to Pod 4, I guess maybe I assumed it? If Beta wasn't in there, how was Beta trying to communicate with Ted otherwise?


le nubian - Sep 09, 2009 5:20:08 pm PDT #9881 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I don't watch Who, but I didn't think Torchwood was worth it. But, I think I'm in the minority here regarding that so you may want to take my words with a grain of salt.

I actually am now in the place that I wish I had just read about it here and skipped actually watching it.


Dana - Sep 09, 2009 5:23:52 pm PDT #9882 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

I think Doctor Who season 4 is totally worth it.

If I had known, I might not have watched the last part of Torchwood. I don't know. But it kept me away from any panels with GDL at Dragoncon this weekend.