I don't get why (aside from manufactured peril) they had to go through the Dark Vault, with all the time lost to electronic lockpicking and whatnot, rather than just travel around it by a couple hundred feet at the most.
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Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 09, 2009 12:30:19 pm PDT #9868 of 30001
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Zenkitty - Sep 09, 2009 12:41:27 pm PDT #9869 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Well, Matt, to go around the Dark Vault, you have to get past the Cave of Madness without waking the Fire Dragon, and don't pick the Golden Apples of Immortality even though they're shiny, really it's just a trick, and then the Sphinx will be asking you a riddle, and once you get past that, there's the Scylla and Charybdis... oh, what, you thought the replica boarding house was the only tesseract in the place?
§ ita § - Sep 09, 2009 12:52:12 pm PDT #9870 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
rather than just travel around it by a couple hundred feet at the most.
I guess the implication was that it was more than just a couple hundred feet. In the end I don't know if it was faster, but Pete was behaving badly.
§ ita § - Sep 09, 2009 1:19:40 pm PDT #9871 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
This person REALLY likes Defying Gravity, but I don't think that means one should discount out of hand every opinion in the piece. Mostly I was wondering--was it evident to everyone that Beta was in Pod 4? I mean, thinking about it, it would kinda make sense, since that's where Ted goes for his hallucinations, but it's not like everyone else has to go anywhere for theirs. Eve used to have to go somewhere in the building for hers--did the Space Program move Beta, or did Beta move Beta?
Miracleman - Sep 09, 2009 3:38:10 pm PDT #9872 of 30001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
Not to harp on a thing you guys saw four hundred years ago or whatever, but...
Jesus! What they did in "Journey's End." I mean, getting the whole Whooby Gang together, that was one thing, but...
...to take away Donna's memories...
I was kinda sad for Rose, a bit more sad for Martha and Jack, all of them for being in love with the Doctor who can't/won't acknowledge their love for him because of what he is and what he does, but...Donna didn't love *him*, not that way. She was, in my opinion, the perfect companion for the Doctor (bearing in mind I have not seen any DW ep. prior to Eccleston in at least 20 years, so immersed in the canon I am not)...because she didn't love the man, she loved the adventure, which is just what he loved, too. She saw through all of his shit and marveled in seeing the universe and was more purely in it for the travel than any other and...it's all gone. She's going to lead...well, my life. A shabby life on Earth, not among the stars. She'll never again be the Donna who grew to completion in the TARDIS, but a stunted, smaller, inexperienced version of herself and....it just tore my heart out.
Maybe just me.
Dana - Sep 09, 2009 3:53:28 pm PDT #9873 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."
No, most of fandom was pretty pissed at what happened to Donna.
Though I personally believe she can never stay the way she was. She'll still find a way to grow.
shrift - Sep 09, 2009 3:56:18 pm PDT #9874 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
Maybe just me.
Not just you. Turn left, Donna! TURN LEFT.
Miracleman - Sep 09, 2009 4:10:13 pm PDT #9875 of 30001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
See, I wasn't *pissed* per se. It was just heart-rending (while at the same time being just AWESOME story-telling. That shit took GUTS, friends.)
So much guts that I kinda gotta say: Take THAT, Minear. You bring pain, but...damn.
§ ita § - Sep 09, 2009 4:27:55 pm PDT #9876 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I want them to go back to Donna somehow, even if it's just seeing her grandfather so that we can find out she's done something with her life and proved her harping mother wrong.
le nubian - Sep 09, 2009 4:54:42 pm PDT #9877 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
ita,
yes, I believe I knew Beta is in pod 4. I certainly didn't believe Beta was anywhere on Earth any longer, but had been in Eve's flashbacks.