Why, SwhyFwhy, why? I thought you loved me! You told me you did. You swore that dalliance with the wrestlers was just a freak thing. You said you would always be there for me, with spaceships and explosions and giant although ultimately disappointing cephalopods. What, you want me to be more like the office worker next door? I can change! I'll wear pearls while I vacuum! Just don't stop bringing me spinning police boxes and mysterious underground cities with endearing sheriffs!
Lorne ,'Why We Fight'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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Also known as "Swhy has thou forsaken me?"
From Zap2It.com about Vampire Diaries:
It's a hard sell -- another vampire property? But then executive producer Julie Ples won me over by invoking Jordan Catalano and Dylan McKay -- and promising her bad boys actually have the depth and soul that those guys promised, but didn't deliver. Plus, she squealed with glee at the mention of "The Lost Boys." How can you not love that?
By having seen the trailers I can not love that. It looks like Twilight meets 90210--the reboot. Don't toss around Jordan Catalano's name casually.
so, I saw a commercial for "Alice" which is done by the makers of "Tin Man." "Alice" is coming out in December - perhaps timed to come before the Johnny Depp movie. I saw all three parts of "Tin Man" and that shit DRAGGED. Just about the only thing that captured my attention was the flying monkeys that started out as tattoos on the Witch and lept from her bosom when commanded. That was super cool and way over the top, but not worth 6-8 hours of pain.
Plus, she squealed with glee at the mention of "The Lost Boys." How can you not love that?
Okay, THAT may get me to watch the first couple of episodes. Because I'm re-reading the first book of The Vampire Diaries, and just as I remembered, it's okay but nothing special.
I just watched the Being Human original pilot, and I am having a hard time telling if it's the primacy effect or what, but I really do prefer "our" Mitchell and Annie. I think both Mitchells look like they'd have been out of place when they were turned, but ours looks darker inside.
And I hate the pitch of the original Annie's voice. Listening to her freak out (if her arc had been the same, which it doesn't quite seem like it would, since she was out at the bar in the first ep) would have been wholly irritating.
Russell Tovey just rocks. I think the Herrick we got was a good Herrick, but losing Adrian Lester? Damn. He was a silky smooth man of evil. The Herrick of the series was more petty nasty.
Russell Tovey just rocks. I think the Herrick we got was a good Herrick, but losing Adrian Lester? Damn. He was a silky smooth man of evil.
oh, man! I would have LOVED him as Herrick. Probably would have changed my feelings about Herrick considerably. I first saw our Herrick as the fumbling psychologist on Vivienne Vyle, so it was a bit of an adjustment.
I would have LOVED him as Herrick.
He was so different. And good. But I totally can't see him kissing that crazy cafeteria girl, can you?
Is anyone here planning on watching SG: Universe? I've been reading the most dodgy things about its sexual politics (body swapping so that the paraplegic asexual lesbian can sleep with a man, IIRC), not to mention the rageaholic black guy that had been nicknamed Psycho. I want to know if it's as bad as all that, but how long can I keep sacrificing myself at the altar of crap TV just for the knowledge?
I want to know if it's as bad as all that, but how long can I keep sacrificing myself at the altar of crap TV just for the knowledge?
ita, these are the writers/producers who played a rapist for laughs on SGA. Who, when they got Teal'c for an episode on SGA, all they could think of to do was put him in a cage-match with Ronon. And who could sent Teyla cheerfully back to the Milky Way with Atlantis, leaving her child behind.
I actually do think it's as bad as all that.
Spoilery for the pilot/trailers: Not even for RDA, since I'm sure we're only getting five minutes of Jack in the pilot anyway.
The MGM/Gekko/Bridge guys have squandered any credit they had earned by virtue of some great casting and a number of seasons of good-natured, not too ambitious storytelling. They now think they're going to be the next BSG, forgetting that in order to be Ron Moore (which in itself is a somewhat dubious goal, given the end of BSG), you have to actually give a damn about character and consequences--which they don't.
... erm. Sorry about the rantage, there. It's just those guys piss me off. And I don't think John Scalzi's involvement is actually going to make much of a difference.
when they got Teal'c for an episode on SGA, all they could think of to do was put him in a cage-match with Ronon
Not that I don't appreciate excellent manflesh battling it out--but when that's all you can do with them because there hasn't been anything interesting written for a PoC to do that Chris Judge didn't write for himself...well, it takes the shine off the shallow appreciation.
Everything I've read about JMallozzi's response to the fanbase has made me dislike him and miss showrunners like Tim and John Rogers and even almost cranky Joss.
At least they backed off calling their black guy Psycho. Maybe they're capable of learning? Probably not complex lessons, and probably not in time.