unless they're putting John Barrowman on Dr. Who I can't see them going forward on Torchwood without him.
Yeah, I thought Torchwood was a vehicle to continue Cap. Jack Harkness's story.
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Calli - Aug 14, 2009 4:57:54 am PDT #9388 of 30001
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DebetEsse - Aug 14, 2009 5:21:06 am PDT #9389 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Jack has often had plans that boiled down to "get where things are happening and then deal with it as the moment provides".
Which seems to work better for The Doctor than Jack, although it does often work for Jack.
I agree, Calli. I'm just not sure where Jack's story goes next, especially if he's earthbound.
Barb - Aug 14, 2009 6:31:29 am PDT #9390 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”
Well, I've wondered, since the line where Gwen's complaining to Rhys that what with all the things they dealt with in Torchwood, it was no wonder the pill failed, if that wasn't something RTD is throwing out there as a potential thread. He's not much for random throwaway lines and wouldn't it be something if somehow, Jack's DNA had done some sort of mating dance with Gwen's-- that would really mess with Jack's head and bring in a shitload of conflict with Rhys and etc. etc.
It's the sort of thing that would bring Jack back and keep him earthbound, especially since he's effectively lost Alice. He'd be all torn, with the not-worthy feelings, plus there's the whole issue that while he and Gwen share a massively deep connection and might even be soulmates, of a sort, they could never be together. She'd kill him. Repeatedly.
Jon B. - Aug 14, 2009 6:46:27 am PDT #9391 of 30001
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what with all the things they dealt with in Torchwood, it was no wonder the pill failed
I took that to mean that she forgot to take them occasionally.
Barb - Aug 14, 2009 6:54:17 am PDT #9392 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”
I took that to mean that she forgot to take them occasionally.
Nah, my interpretation of that was that she took it, but given all the wonky stuff in Torchwood (and if I remember correctly, she even said alien technology, etc., etc.) that she meant the pill never stood a chance of actually working.
§ ita § - Aug 14, 2009 6:58:18 am PDT #9393 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I really didn't think (and hope it doesn't mean) it had anything to do with Jack's DNA. The only magical hopes I had for his lineage would have been Stephen coming back to life, and since that didn't pan out, don't mess with Rhys. He doesn't deserve it.
Trudy Booth - Aug 14, 2009 7:16:07 am PDT #9394 of 30001
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Of course, if Stephen DID come back and I were his Mother there's no way in hell I'd be telling Jack.
Barb - Aug 14, 2009 8:43:43 am PDT #9395 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”
don't mess with Rhys. He doesn't deserve it.
Yeah,but RTD is every bit as bad as Joss about the HEA for characters. He just doesn't do happy and contented terribly well.
Trudy Booth - Aug 14, 2009 10:31:27 am PDT #9396 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I think giving Gwen a weird baby with Jack would belie Gwen's "Normal human with a life" status that makes her so valuable to dealing with the weirdness.
Which is a choice, of course. It'll be interesting to see where they go.
§ ita § - Aug 14, 2009 10:40:11 am PDT #9397 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't mean that Rhys doesn't deserve it in any sort of a woobie way--I mean the character would be ill-served by it.