.. and even Martha. Given the right story and, of course, actor availability -- and I still can't help but suspect Martha and Mickey weren't used because RTD didn't want them in this story -- I don't see any reason why a new Torchwood couldn't be up and running very quickly.
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victor infante - Aug 13, 2009 2:28:03 pm PDT #9379 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
le nubian - Aug 13, 2009 4:18:22 pm PDT #9380 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
upthread, someone said Martha (the actress) wasn't available for CoE.
§ ita § - Aug 13, 2009 5:05:47 pm PDT #9381 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I still can't help but suspect Martha and Mickey weren't used because RTD didn't want them in this story
What LeN said. Freema was already previously spoken for by L&O:UK. I can see Micky's deliberate omission though.
quester - Aug 13, 2009 6:08:13 pm PDT #9382 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
Mickey and Doris and Gwen as the leader.
I'm a masochist because I just watched Exit Wounds (finally!) It was so hard to watch that last scene with Gwen, Jack and Ianto in the hub.
But, in the scene at the police station where Gwen is giving the marching orders to the other officers...she's a leader and even Rhys know it.
They could build a show around her. Having a baby will complicate but there are babysitters and they will need a new HQ, but it's doable.
§ ita § - Aug 13, 2009 6:55:51 pm PDT #9383 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I know RTD loves Eve Myles, but unless they're putting John Barrowman on Dr. Who I can't see them going forward on Torchwood without him.
DebetEsse - Aug 14, 2009 2:46:41 am PDT #9384 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
I could definitely see Jack showing up halfway through the premiere and Gwen being excited to see him, but she's got a team and a hub set up and they're doing ok, and it'd be like whichever season of Angel...where Gunn and Wes and Cordy were doing Angel Investigations without Angel, only (probably) with it going more or less just fine.
sumi - Aug 14, 2009 3:06:01 am PDT #9385 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Season 2.
And they opened Season 2 of Torchwood like that too - didn't they?
DebetEsse - Aug 14, 2009 3:09:07 am PDT #9386 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
More or less, yeah. He'd been gone. I think it would be a bit different if it were a whole new team, though.
Miracleman - Aug 14, 2009 4:23:07 am PDT #9387 of 30001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
Just finished re-watchiing CoE Day Four and...I still cannot believe that somebody, Ianto or Gwen or somebody didn't smack Jack in the face with a shovel for his "plan".
"Really? All this work, all this convincing office temps to commit treason and stealing cars and computers and getting you your damn coat and all this time and effort and your plan, when we get right down to it, is 'Go away or we'll be mad!' You didn't have, like, anything to back that up? Nothing? Not a thing. So...you're fucking stupid. Right? I mean...just fucking stupid."
In my head I re-wrote Ianto's death scene so that when Jack's cradling his head and Ianto asks...
Ianto: It was good, yeah?
Jack: Yeah.
Ianto: WRONG! You got me killed for NOTHING you stupid jackhole! You unbelievably egotistical douchenozzle! *cough cough*. You know what? That thing you did with your tongue? My girlfriend did it better...while she was a cyberwoman! Fuck you, Captain Jack!" *dies*
Jack: O...kay. So...quick funeral for you, suit boy!
Calli - Aug 14, 2009 4:57:54 am PDT #9388 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
unless they're putting John Barrowman on Dr. Who I can't see them going forward on Torchwood without him.
Yeah, I thought Torchwood was a vehicle to continue Cap. Jack Harkness's story.