I already know what I'm gonna call her. Got a name all picked out...

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Fay - Aug 11, 2009 2:44:23 pm PDT #9364 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I've gotten hooked, in spite of my fondness for the Arthurian myth and the show's problematic relationship thereunto. The actors are so, so pretty.

I liked the show enormously. Very (consciously) Smallville Season 1, and SOOOO pretty - not just the actors, but the whole look of the show, just like a Waterhouse painting come to life, with all those lovely bright blues and deep red browns and the gorgeous costumes. And of course there's all the (fem)slash - but actually it was the Uther/Morgana relationship that I enjoyed the most of all. Rraar!

Also? France is pretty.

Hey, where do we talk Leverage again?


Polter-Cow - Aug 11, 2009 2:46:13 pm PDT #9365 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Cable Drama.


Fay - Aug 11, 2009 3:28:39 pm PDT #9366 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Cheers!


dcp - Aug 11, 2009 4:12:29 pm PDT #9367 of 30001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Warehouse 13: "Percussive Maintenance!" I've always liked that term.


§ ita § - Aug 11, 2009 5:08:18 pm PDT #9368 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Eddie McClintock is such a cutiehead.


JenP - Aug 11, 2009 5:46:00 pm PDT #9369 of 30001

I am so curious to see how they're going to proceed with Torchwood. Huh.


DebetEsse - Aug 12, 2009 3:44:57 am PDT #9370 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

And me.

Like HP7 and Dollhouse, but in a totally different way, I look at the show and say to the people behind it, "Well, that was interesting. But what can you possibly do now?"

If they didn't need to keep Gwen, I'd say be off-planet for a bit.


Calli - Aug 12, 2009 5:28:38 am PDT #9371 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I liked the show enormously. Very (consciously) Smallville Season 1, and SOOOO pretty - not just the actors, but the whole look of the show, just like a Waterhouse painting come to life, with all those lovely bright blues and deep red browns and the gorgeous costumes. And of course there's all the (fem)slash - but actually it was the Uther/Morgana relationship that I enjoyed the most of all. Rraar!

Also? France is pretty.

Oh, goodness, yes, lots of pretty! I especially like the castle at which they've been filming. Someone on lj visited, and posted scans of the guidebook.


§ ita § - Aug 12, 2009 5:55:26 am PDT #9372 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If they didn't need to keep Gwen, I'd say be off-planet for a bit.

ISn't the purpose of Torchwood Earthbound?


Miracleman - Aug 12, 2009 1:39:10 pm PDT #9373 of 30001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Okay, so just caught up on the CoE talk and I've just finished rewatching Series 1 and 2 of Torchwood.

On the death of Ianto: I really don't think the point was arbitrarily to torture the living shit out of Jack. Seemed to me it was more of a "hey, dumbass, guess whose plan completely fucking backfired and, incidentally, killed your lover?" Just kind of a slap in the face for Jack whose plan ("Let's threaten them with our total badassedness though we lack things like, you know, resources") was very very stupid. You may be the hero, Jack, but you're not so cool you can just pull salvation from out thy bunghole.

That seemed to me to play well into sacrificing his grandson. When Skeeve-man Decker says "You have a transmitter" Jack's immediate reflexive response was "No. Shut up." Because he was once again forced into a "pull a dumbass plan out of your ass and save the day" situation which he had done well in the past, but recently had not worked out so good. It was only when he saw that he had NO time for ANYTHING ELSE that he did it. And it killed him. Not literally, of course.

So his decision to leave at the end made perfect sense. It wasn't just grieving, to my mind, but was made up of grieving and crippling self doubt. "What am I doing? What made me think I could do this? Who am I to lead these people when I am so clearly a major fucktard?"

I loved CoE (not that it didn't have some faults, many of which have been pointed out upthread. Seriously, you're just going to build a giant poison-filled fishtank and not have some way to, you know, blow it up? Really?), but thought it was the end of TW. I was really surprised to hear about a series 4. How? Jack's gone, Gwen's about to have a kid (the problems with which I was reminded of in Series 2 when Rhys and Gwen were talking about having kids and Gwen was all "It won't work. 'Sure, Jack, I'll disarm that bomb just as soon as I drop the baby off at daycare'?") So I wonder what will be left of TW to pick up at the beginning. Just Gwen and Rhys and the baby sitting around their flat taking weird phone calls? "Well, when there's slime is there also a weird noise? Yeah? 'Polka music'. GWEN!"

But I'm eager to find out.