Yeah, cheated is not what I feel. But then, I never do -- so I'm no real guage of that emotion.
Right. Piano. Because that's what we used to kill that big demon that one time. No, wait. That was a rocket launcher.
Xander ,'Touched'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
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Trudy Booth - Jul 29, 2009 8:36:06 am PDT #9227 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
beekaytee - Jul 29, 2009 10:13:31 am PDT #9228 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant
wrong thread! ...moving along...
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 29, 2009 12:25:01 pm PDT #9229 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Yeah, back in the Angel days, the darker Tim and Joss made things the better I liked it. That moment closing the wine cellar doors is still the character's zenith IMHO. It was when they went for sentimentality and romance that I had trouble watching.
I'm not really sure if it's the specific character, the tone of the story, the plot, or some combo of all three that makes me enjoy seeing the screws turned on some protagonists' torment (Angel, Jaye Tyler) while being put off by the excessive bleakness inflicted on others (Buffy, the BSG characters).
§ ita § - Jul 29, 2009 12:44:59 pm PDT #9230 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Thinking about it, BSG was still too bleak for me, and CoE wasn't.
Mind you, I'm mad at RTD and will miss Ianto terribly, but I will miss his smile and his and Cap'n Jack's light moments.
quester - Jul 29, 2009 5:33:53 pm PDT #9231 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
I feel like RTD wound up murdering Jack's character in his quest for whatever he thought he was achieving.
I have no problem with the idea that Jack did many questionable things before we met him, and in the time he was waiting for the Doctor, but after the lost year with the Doctor, the adventure with the other Companions and the episode with Gray, he was a different man and I couldn't buy him not showing more pain and remorse over the decisions that he had to make.
§ ita § - Jul 29, 2009 5:37:12 pm PDT #9232 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I couldn't buy him not showing more pain and remorse over the decisions that he had to make
More remorse over 1965 or more remorse over 2009? And what would have been enough?
Completely unrelatedly, the exchange "There's still monkey phlegm in your hair." "That's not phlegm." from Warehouse 13 yesterday really made me laugh.
quester - Jul 29, 2009 5:40:05 pm PDT #9233 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
More remorse over 1965 or more remorse over 2009? And what would have been enough?
Both, I guess and I just felt like Barrowman was directed to hold back.
Completely unrelatedly, the exchange "There's still monkey phlegm in your hair." "That's not phlegm." from Warehouse 13 yesterday really made me laugh.
Right there with you!
§ ita § - Jul 29, 2009 5:47:22 pm PDT #9234 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think they really skipped past what he'd done in 1965. The flu vaccination explanation might have been excuse enough, but he never gave it and everyone's loyalty seemed relatively unswerved.
As for 2009, I think he showed a balance between something he knew had to be done and the cost of it.
Right there with you!
Does SyFy have a S&P department? Because the visuals are really disturbing.
Vortex - Jul 29, 2009 5:48:44 pm PDT #9235 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I want to like Warehouse 13, but the main characters are drawn with such a broad brush that they annoy me. They are such stock characters - uptight, by the book agent paired with wacky, irresponsible intuitive agent - they fight crime!
Ailleann - Jul 29, 2009 5:49:36 pm PDT #9236 of 30001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda
Warehouse 13: I also thought "serendipity's my stripper name" was pretty hilarious.