the worst we got in Doctor Who was people being separated forever
Torchwood is more "adult" than Doctor Who, so I get that.
I would be there right now.
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§ ita § - Jul 24, 2009 3:38:33 am PDT #9030 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jul 24, 2009 3:52:57 am PDT #9031 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"
Torchwood is more "adult" than Doctor Who
Yes, but RTD's gone slightly overboard with that. There's 'more adult', and there's Minear-esque, and then there's 'what did we do to you that was so bad we deserved this...?'
(I did enjoy the mini-series, don't get me wrong.)
Jessica - Jul 24, 2009 4:02:39 am PDT #9032 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
No one is watching it except you and me, ita.
I am! And AFAIK it hasn't been officially renewed OR canceled. It's on a kind of indefinite hiatus.
I did hear a rumor that Virtuality is being shopped around for international funding, so even though it definitely will not be on Fox in the fall, it may pop up somewhere else if they can get production money and distribution. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease buy it, Syfy?? I'll forgive your stupid name change and everything, just put my show on the air!
DebetEsse - Jul 24, 2009 4:37:02 am PDT #9033 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
I'm watching Kings. I thought it was dead like a dead thing.
amych - Jul 24, 2009 4:42:58 am PDT #9034 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
I'm watching. Was. Will be. Verb tense tbd.
Invisible Green - Jul 24, 2009 4:43:52 am PDT #9035 of 30001
Are we absolutely sure that RTD hasn't been hanging out with Minear? It seems like he's been taking lessons.
Before "Exit Wounds," I was convinced that RTD was too chickenshit to ever kill off any of his beloved characters (without immediately reviving them like Jack or Rhys). Boy, has he proved me wrong!
WindSparrow - Jul 24, 2009 5:01:11 am PDT #9036 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
(I did enjoy the mini-series, don't get me wrong.)
I did too, right up until I walked out on it.
Vortex - Jul 24, 2009 5:46:12 am PDT #9037 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Ianto had completed his arc from the standpoint that he came to terms with who and what Jack is and loved him still. Perhaps loved him more. He went out on the strength of his convictions-- all the reasons he came to work for Jack's branch of Torchwood in the first place.
And clearly Jack loved him too, from the way he tried to bargain with the 456 for Ianto's life.
Trudy Booth - Jul 24, 2009 5:58:08 am PDT #9038 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
In the "sneak peeks" after the episodes RTD looks particularly Iantoish to me. Do we think this is guilt? Or that Ianto is an RTD Sue?
I'm loving this alien, btw. Sooooooooo much better than the "new shape of forehead ridge" approach.
Last night I had two thougths rolling through my head. (And one that came out when I yelled "BITCHES!" at the screen when Lydia let them have it.)
The first was:
Where is the Doctor? He needs to show up NOW!
The second:
Why don't the 456 just take some children? Why do they keep asking? Whatever the reason is must be a pretty exploitable weakness.
Nora Deirdre - Jul 24, 2009 6:14:39 am PDT #9039 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
Who is Lydia?