Tracy: Well-- That call -- That call means you just murdered me. Mal: No, son. You murdered yourself. I just carried the bullet a while.

'The Message'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2009 8:22:57 pm PDT #8834 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When does Sarah Jane S2 reach? I think I can wait for that, eagerly.


Zenkitty - Jul 12, 2009 8:29:45 pm PDT #8835 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I'm starting to think maybe I don't want to watch TW at all, despite the hotness.


Typo Boy - Jul 12, 2009 9:14:47 pm PDT #8836 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Up to you, but I think it well worth watching, and not just for the hotness. Mixed but some really great characterizations. Also as to day saving. Day is not always saved (see faeries) and when the day is saved, it seems quite often with unnecessary deaths and brutality. Routinely day late, and dollar short. And yet that is part of the charm. Not the A team in space. Highly flawed human institutions and highly flawed people doing the best they can.


Tom Scola - Jul 13, 2009 1:04:53 am PDT #8837 of 30001
hwæt

I must now shout in whitefont about the season finale:

!!! runs off to ahem...


Theodosia - Jul 13, 2009 3:05:13 am PDT #8838 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

When ARE we getting Sarah Jane again?


DCJensen - Jul 13, 2009 3:58:15 am PDT #8839 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I think Siffy bought the USAian rights.


Typo Boy - Jul 13, 2009 8:53:56 pm PDT #8840 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Oh another point. Sarah Jane seems to save the day more often than Torchwood, more successfully and with fewer (though not zero) avoidable casualties. So in spite of hsi background Captain Jack is NOT the best one for the job.

I get the feeling that if Sarah Jane was Captain Jack's boss professionally, things would have worked out better. (Not artistically, very different series, but in terms of day saving. Umm and maybe in other ways too. In sum if the series were merged a lot imaginary people would be alive, two imaginary people would be happier, but the real people in the audience would have been totally miserable.)


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2009 9:10:53 pm PDT #8841 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can't see Sarah Jane leading a group of adults into danger all the time, though.

They do different things, and she does it on a kids show, so there are fewer casualties.


Jon B. - Jul 14, 2009 3:22:30 am PDT #8842 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Yeah, I think there's way too much meta cluttering things to say that Sarah Jane is a better boss. If Torchwood were The Captain Jack Adventures, his job performance would greatly improve.


sumi - Jul 14, 2009 4:56:03 am PDT #8843 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Hey, the Eureka premiere did quite well ratings wise - it beat ABC in the 25-54 demo.

25-54 - that seems like an odd grouping, doesn't it?