Look, Angel, I know you've been out of the loop for a while, but I'm still evil. I don't do errands...unless they're evil errands.

Lilah ,'Just Rewards (2)'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Jul 11, 2009 8:13:17 pm PDT #8796 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Children of Earth and possible Who speculation: I wonder if Captain Jack will bump into the Doctor--hopefully ten and not eleven and be judged by him. I'd love to see how that turns out.


le nubian - Jul 12, 2009 6:11:26 am PDT #8797 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Torchwood: Okay, so I've been watching the 5-part CoE (I'm only about 20 min in at this posting) and I have this comment:

If someone wanted me to disappear 10% of the population - for any reason - I think I would quit my job, or start battle plans to fight. I actually think this is worth losing life over. Whose to say the aliens won't be back for the rest of the 90%? For example, I'm reasonably sure given what we learned about why the aliens wanted the children, that we could manufacture that which the aliens liked. Since I haven't seen the rest of the program, my comments might be ridiculous.

I don't understand why this wasn't part of the discussion and narrative in Parts 3 or 4. Despite our flaws, human beings have a solid resistance streak, especially when things get so dire. We needed to see more of that.


le nubian - Jul 12, 2009 6:36:10 am PDT #8798 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Minute 37:

the neighborhood resistance is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about nuclear missiles and shit.


Laura - Jul 12, 2009 6:36:32 am PDT #8799 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Torchwood: The narrative was deeply flawed for me. I agree with le nubian that all other options were rejected too easily. The problem for me is that I was so unsatisfied with the series that my best option is to hold dear the series that I loved and pretend this never happened.

Finally watched Warehouse 13. Good fun. Looking forward to more. Ignoring the stupid name change of the network.


le nubian - Jul 12, 2009 6:48:23 am PDT #8800 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Minute: 48

Um.

That was some really really dark shit. If you had to use a child, are you telling me that they couldn't have chosen, a terminal child from a hospital or someone else? Yes, they were short on time, but they could have gotten another child there in 10 minutes. I mean, what the fuck?


le nubian - Jul 12, 2009 9:25:41 am PDT #8801 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I just watched Torchwood Declassified - which I guess will be on the DVD.

So, the creator claims that Captain Jack has more children, and likely has "hundreds." This revelation softens the ending of Part 5 some, but inexplicably.


Dana - Jul 12, 2009 9:27:42 am PDT #8802 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Oh, good, LeN. Tell me if I hated the mini, do I want to watch the Declassified? Will it just make me angry?


le nubian - Jul 12, 2009 9:31:11 am PDT #8803 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I think you should watch it. Note: It has HUGE spoilers, not for anyone who hasn't seen the 5-parter.

It actually gave me better closure. I'm not sure you will feel any better about the mini, but I don't feel as depressed, if that makes any sense. There is a very nice montage for Ianto, for example that I appreciated.

I've decided that it really makes me feel good when creative people are proud of the work they have accomplished, even if I might disagree with the result.


le nubian - Jul 12, 2009 9:33:50 am PDT #8804 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Note: Declassified is 30 minutes.


le nubian - Jul 12, 2009 9:35:54 am PDT #8805 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Dana,

(off-topic)

I am reading The Tin Roof Blowdown by James Lee Burke which essentially is a murder mystery set in New Orleans right after Katrina.

If you are interested in such things, I think you'd like the book. It seems to be pretty scathing in general.