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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Ailleann - Jul 11, 2009 4:25:38 am PDT #8777 of 30001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

But seriously, isn't it possible that Fargo might keep him around some how?

I kind of wondered if his "soul"-searching would end up with him deciding to do something else in Eureka.


Kathy A - Jul 11, 2009 5:11:42 am PDT #8778 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I loved Eureka! That was a great ep, nice and lighthearted, but with all the geekiness and character stuff the show does so well. And Andy ended up being terrific! I thought it was great how he left not because he'd screwed up, or the DoD rethought their experiment, but because he'd developed a personal belief system and ethical code, as well as a serious survival instinct.


beekaytee - Jul 11, 2009 5:16:03 am PDT #8779 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Despite being bone tired, I watched Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang last night so that I could get the nasty Torchwood taste out of my mouth.

Building on Anne's whitefont, it occurred to me this morning what really bugged me about it...which was the same as the last episode of Robin Hood.

The Hero is brilliant and resilient and has a twinkle in his eye but then has the charm crushed out of him, becomes uncaring/soulless and his faithful (even adoring) followers die ignominious deaths.

Then he wanders off to somewhere other than here and quits the fight. I can see taking breaks, God knows I left the arms control non-profit community after having the stuffing beat out of me, but 'reality' isn't what I'm looking for in my pop entertainment. I feel like it's a particularly crummy bait and switch.


Fay - Jul 11, 2009 5:27:01 am PDT #8780 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Crikey. I'm glad I've spoiled myself, because Torchwood sounds thoroughly depressing. But, yeah - I think, assuming that this is indeed the end of the show, that I'll probably be good with it. In a OHMYGODNOYOUKILLEDIANTOYOUTOTALBASTARDS kind of way. But, y'know, 'Blakes 7' was my first SciFi fandom, and I STILL remember the trauma of how that ended. I was, I dunno, six, or something? And it was like the last scene of fucking Hamlet, with all the people you cared about getting their hearts broken and then killing each other. Jesus fuck. ...so, I think maybe that's how we do SciFi in my country.

is sad


Juliebird - Jul 11, 2009 5:48:12 am PDT #8781 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'm glad I was prepared for Torchwood.


beekaytee - Jul 11, 2009 5:48:23 am PDT #8782 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I'm not sure how it relates but it might just be what you are talking about Fay, regarding the British sensibility. I woke up thinking about The Bridge Over the River Kwai...how fruitless being a hero can be sometimes.

There are other examples I'll probably come up with later. I can see the value of that ethic, in contrast to the US proclivity for happy-slappy, ass-pully happy endings where no one ever seems to suffer a real consequence but sheesh. I'd prefer some sort of middle ground.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 11, 2009 5:56:04 am PDT #8783 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I kind of wondered if his "soul"-searching would end up with him deciding to do something else in Eureka.

I thought the exact same thing.


Burrell - Jul 11, 2009 7:52:26 am PDT #8784 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Maybe he'll become an electric monk.


Theresa - Jul 11, 2009 7:56:19 am PDT #8785 of 30001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I kind of wondered if his "soul"-searching would end up with him deciding to do something else in Eureka.

I thought the exact same thing.

Me too. I thought him wanting to have time in his box was like time in his room. I hope we weren't telling the character goodbye. If he is DOD property though, I guess they wouldn't just let him go.


dcp - Jul 11, 2009 8:11:57 am PDT #8786 of 30001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Maybe he'll become an electric monk.

Hah!

Now I must go find my copy of Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency and re-read.