ita -- yup. Well, I was doing other things during some talky portions, so "watching" is probably stretching the term. I'm sure that viewing it as a one-off rather than as part of an ongoing series changes a lot of things; I had to pause a couple of times early on and go to Wikipedia to figure out who was who.

Torchwood: A friend of mine found the ending satisfying. I was surprised, given the reactions I've seen around here, and she said it reminded her of the ending to things like Blake's Seven, Sapphire & Steel, etc. Very old skool dark British sci-fi. I'm still not planning to watch.

Torchwood: What! Did they hate their own show? Did they hate Captain Jack? I'm pissed. They destroyed it. Part of my mind is constructing arguments where I don't feel the actions were consistent with everything we had seen in the show previously, but screw it. They made me not care anymore. This sucks.

Now to watch Eureka! Hopefully to drown my sorrows.

I really enjoyed Eureka. It is too bad that we only get Andy for an episode.

But seriously, isn't it possible that Fargo might keep him around some how?

I loved that Sarah was the one trying to get rid of the sheriff. (She voiced her dislike of him right away.)

Also, with an episode titled "Welcome Back, Carter" - I figured that he'd be sheriff again by the end of it.

But seriously, isn't it possible that Fargo might keep him around some how?

I kind of wondered if his "soul"-searching would end up with him deciding to do something else in Eureka.

I loved Eureka! That was a great ep, nice and lighthearted, but with all the geekiness and character stuff the show does so well. And Andy ended up being terrific! I thought it was great how he left not because he'd screwed up, or the DoD rethought their experiment, but because he'd developed a personal belief system and ethical code, as well as a serious survival instinct.

Despite being bone tired, I watched Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang last night so that I could get the nasty Torchwood taste out of my mouth.

Building on Anne's whitefont, it occurred to me this morning what really bugged me about it...which was the same as the last episode of Robin Hood.

The Hero is brilliant and resilient and has a twinkle in his eye but then has the charm crushed out of him, becomes uncaring/soulless and his faithful (even adoring) followers die ignominious deaths.

Then he wanders off to somewhere other than here and quits the fight. I can see taking breaks, God knows I left the arms control non-profit community after having the stuffing beat out of me, but 'reality' isn't what I'm looking for in my pop entertainment. I feel like it's a particularly crummy bait and switch.

Crikey. I'm glad I've spoiled myself, because Torchwood sounds thoroughly depressing. But, yeah - I think, assuming that this is indeed the end of the show, that I'll probably be good with it. In a OHMYGODNOYOUKILLEDIANTOYOUTOTALBASTARDS kind of way. But, y'know, 'Blakes 7' was my first SciFi fandom, and I STILL remember the trauma of how that ended. I was, I dunno, six, or something? And it was like the last scene of fucking Hamlet, with all the people you cared about getting their hearts broken and then killing each other. Jesus fuck. ...so, I think maybe that's how we do SciFi in my country.

is sad

I'm glad I was prepared for Torchwood.

I'm not sure how it relates but it might just be what you are talking about Fay, regarding the British sensibility. I woke up thinking about The Bridge Over the River Kwai...how fruitless being a hero can be sometimes.

There are other examples I'll probably come up with later. I can see the value of that ethic, in contrast to the US proclivity for happy-slappy, ass-pully happy endings where no one ever seems to suffer a real consequence but sheesh. I'd prefer some sort of middle ground.