Pretty cool except for the part where I was really terrified and now my knees are all dizzy.

Willow ,'Never Leave Me'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Dana - Jul 09, 2009 3:12:26 pm PDT #8705 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

ita, I'm with you. I refuse to even consider otherwise, because aside from my personal feelings, if they goddamn kill off one half of a goddamn gay couple after goddamn killing off almost half their cast last year, I will have problems.


beekaytee - Jul 09, 2009 3:19:26 pm PDT #8706 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I'll have to see 4 tomorrow but I have to echo ita and dana's sentiment. I was so moved when Ianto said,"It isn't men. It's him. With such, love. So, killing one half of that would be the epitome of Bad Show.

I don't think they need to put such a fine point on the aloneness of Jack by killing off all the major cast members, for cripes sake.


Zenkitty - Jul 09, 2009 3:59:54 pm PDT #8707 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I just watched Warehouse 13, and quite enjoyed it. Like M&Ms, not the best, but yummy anyway.


Juliebird - Jul 09, 2009 4:00:00 pm PDT #8708 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Children of Earth and people not British: [link]


JenP - Jul 09, 2009 5:27:17 pm PDT #8709 of 30001

Torchwood. Yeah, what they said. I don't care if Superman has to fly around the Earth until is spins backwards in time to fix it.

Good ep, I thought.


§ ita § - Jul 09, 2009 6:11:04 pm PDT #8710 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought this ep balanced the talk/action better than the last one, while still being primarily talky. But mostly I'm just in a No! Ianto! No! place.


Dana - Jul 09, 2009 6:13:04 pm PDT #8711 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

I am not in any place to be either objective or analytical.


beekaytee - Jul 09, 2009 6:40:42 pm PDT #8712 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Okay, I have to say that with this episode, Torchwood crossed over from being entertaining to way too painful.

I mean, really. How can this be resolved?

Plus, the 'next time' scenes make it look like it will just get worse .

Doctor Who is being retooled. That makes sense. But I haven't heard any such plans for Torchwood. With this massive shift, what could possibly be next.

I'm just too upset. Period.


Theresa - Jul 09, 2009 6:54:29 pm PDT #8713 of 30001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I haven't seen this most recent Torchwood yet but from the whitefont:

I don't know if I can watch something bad happen to Ianto. He's my little ray of sunshine. Okay, that was creepy but

I don't care who knows my whackosis.

I love him.


Fiona - Jul 09, 2009 8:43:43 pm PDT #8714 of 30001

I have to say that, with this 5-parter, RTD seems to have taken the lessons learned from the Whedon-Minear book of TV-writing and then decided to outdo them. First Clem then Ianto? Bastard.

I don't know where they're going with this either. I hope they do. Much as I like Jack and Gwen, I don't think I'll stick with the series for them alone.

However, the preview quite clearly showed a live Mr. Dekker, last seen expiring quietly in a hazmat suit, so maybe Ianto isn't quite as dead as all that. I hope not anyway.

Also, the image of the child attached to the 456 was one of the creepiest things I've seen in a long time .

ETA: And I was pretty disappointed, after Torchwood seemed to be getting a clue, how massively they messed up against the 456. Go into the building and shout at them - what sort of a plan is that?! No wonder it got Ianto killed .