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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Theresa - Jul 09, 2009 6:54:29 pm PDT #8713 of 30001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I haven't seen this most recent Torchwood yet but from the whitefont:

I don't know if I can watch something bad happen to Ianto. He's my little ray of sunshine. Okay, that was creepy but

I don't care who knows my whackosis.

I love him.


Fiona - Jul 09, 2009 8:43:43 pm PDT #8714 of 30001

I have to say that, with this 5-parter, RTD seems to have taken the lessons learned from the Whedon-Minear book of TV-writing and then decided to outdo them. First Clem then Ianto? Bastard.

I don't know where they're going with this either. I hope they do. Much as I like Jack and Gwen, I don't think I'll stick with the series for them alone.

However, the preview quite clearly showed a live Mr. Dekker, last seen expiring quietly in a hazmat suit, so maybe Ianto isn't quite as dead as all that. I hope not anyway.

Also, the image of the child attached to the 456 was one of the creepiest things I've seen in a long time .

ETA: And I was pretty disappointed, after Torchwood seemed to be getting a clue, how massively they messed up against the 456. Go into the building and shout at them - what sort of a plan is that?! No wonder it got Ianto killed .


Fiona - Jul 09, 2009 8:59:21 pm PDT #8715 of 30001

Also, some Who news:

[link]

Is anybody going to Comic Con?

Article is spoilery in the broadest sense.


Juliebird - Jul 10, 2009 1:18:02 am PDT #8716 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

DW: Why do I have the feeling that after this feature event, Ten will get his very own spin-off show? Longest swan song ever.

TW: Eep! On one hand, I don't want to have another "this character was totally All Dead and now, after the cliffhanger, they'll use the resurrection glove and it won't unwork (undead Ianto, careful with him, Jack). Or we'll find out that they were only Mostly Dead/in a coma/unable to die because of constant and intimate contact with Jack's DNA.

Because the resolution to the creeptastic "It was a gift" by actually changing the mood of the scene and deleting that line was cheap.

On the other hand, I don't like the idea that if Ianto stays dead, they might bring back the Gwen/Jack thing, which, ugh.


Fay - Jul 10, 2009 2:01:51 am PDT #8717 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I have seen no Torchwood, and have only spoiled myself a wee bit in this thread, but IANTO MUST NOT DIE!!!!!!!!

::flails::

I HAVE SPOKEN!

::looks very sternly at the universe::


DCJensen - Jul 10, 2009 2:08:05 am PDT #8718 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Windsparrow and I watched TW part one last night. Will likely watch more tonight or tomorrow.


beekaytee - Jul 10, 2009 4:39:16 am PDT #8719 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I'm totally with Fiona. (And, thanks Juliebird for directing me to DailyM!)

The handling of the 456, from beginning to end, has been a total cock-up . Maybe I'm so bewildered that I can't recall a worse series of decisions on this show, but I really can't.

The pathosy bits have been really powerful but the actual execution seems much more handwavey than usual. Even the mostridiculous situations in series 1&2 made SOME sort of sense. But not this time .

I suppose the overarching theme being the bitter wages of guilt makes its own sense but...feh .


Laura - Jul 10, 2009 7:25:14 am PDT #8720 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

So I should have held off on watching Day Four until I had Day Five in hand. I won't nitpick until I see it through. I'll just sit here quietly sobbing NOOOOOOOOOOOO !


JenP - Jul 10, 2009 8:29:33 am PDT #8721 of 30001

Yeah, I hear you, Laura. I keep adding hours to my current time to see how long it's going to be until I get resolution.


Laura - Jul 10, 2009 8:31:28 am PDT #8722 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Oh yeah, I know that routine too.