Fiona, didn't Joss always attribute speaking ability to habit or some vague primal thing?

It's a stupid shame to have the inability to perform mouth to mouth so patently counterpointed with huffing and puffing. But yeah, pure Joss.

I liked it when they were trying to figure out what to do if something like that happened and you were cut off from the rest of the country.

I felt this way too, although by the 2nd or 3rd episode, I was enjoying this season.

The other thing that has kind of detracted a bit is how much the cast has shrunk - Hawkins' kids, Jake's mom, and Gray have all disappeared.

Fiona, didn't Joss always....

See, I can handwipe away all the UnDead breathing or not-breathing (and smoking and eating), because at least it was consistant; it seems to have been something they did voluntarily, or not. But in Owen's case they've gone out of their way to establish that he's SO dead, all of his systems have shut down - he wasn't even able to give a dying man the kiss of life. Given that talking depends on expelling air, there's absolutely no reason why Owen should be able to.

Come to think of it, he probably shouldn't blink either.

What bothers me most is internal inconsistancy.

Honestly, a vampire should be better than a live person at mouth-to-mouth, since they won't have sucked all the oxygen out of the air they're breathing out. OTOH, we originally sacrificed that bit of logic and consistency to give Xander one up over Angel, so I try not to let it bother me too much.

Fiona - surely everything that bugs you there is equally true of Angel and the Season 1 finale of BtVS? I don't see howJoss is being more consistent than Rusty. I mean, I've not seen the ep of Torchwood, but from what you've said - it sounds like it's six of one and half a dozen of the other. No?

(Although I do agree with Brenda - yay for the Xander empowerment!)

Doctor Who on Playstation2?

I am in the corner with Fiona. I really enjoy Torchwood and have from the beginning. LOVE Ianto, Rhys, well, all of the characters really. But Fiona and I are the same regarding eps 8 and 9. Still liked it, there were just the same nits to pick. I can live with them, it just brought me out of the moment for, well, a moment. OTOH, Squee on the guest stars.

Jericho:

The other thing that has kind of detracted a bit is how much the cast has shrunk -Hawkins' kids, Jake's mom, and Gray have all disappeared.

Yes, and Gerald McCreany (sp?) isn't my favoritest-est, but he fit in the show. He gave Jake a chance to be legitimately misunderstood and therefore interesting. Loved the actress that played Jake's Mom so she is missed. I'm thinking in order to bring it back they had to agree to a different show with younger power players and lose most of the relationships. Except for Mimi, Bonnie and Stanley. They were still interesting.

Yeah.

I think it's McRaney.

Well, the cast has shrunk for reasons of $$.

They stripped it down and I'm glad we're not agonizing over Mary/Eric or Jake/Emily. The less Emily the better, I say.

Yeah, the less Emily the better. She really is so useless.