I don't get the Zoe-vibe off of Thomasina. Mainly because I cannot get a Mal vibe off of the King. Zoe wouldn't have been able to deal.
Seems like everyone's got a tale to tell.
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§ ita § - Apr 06, 2009 12:28:35 pm PDT #7770 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
sumi - Apr 06, 2009 12:35:14 pm PDT #7771 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
I don't get a Zoe-vibe from Thomasina either. She and the King are not colleagues and friends the way Zoe and Mal are.
Jon B. - Apr 06, 2009 12:39:30 pm PDT #7772 of 30001
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The original David was a complex and deeply flawed man. Would have been interesting to see that side carried out.
I'm a bit rusty on my bible, but how flawed was David this early in his story? I'm thinking that more complexity will come later.
Liese S. - Apr 06, 2009 1:09:59 pm PDT #7773 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Well, that's a good point. I'm guessing at this point we're somewhere around 1st Samuel 18 or so. So David's not all that removed from being a shepherd. Which reminds me, did they explicitly date this brother? 'Cause David was the youngest, but he wasn't really giving off a kid brother vibe in that relationship to me.
But we should have already had (Biblical spoilers) the beginnings of Saul's madness and David playing to soothe him. We have David as a musician, but not playing for Saul. And we definitely should have had Jonathan & David's close friendship, with possible commitment ceremony by now.
Furthermore, Biblical Jonathan really was a military man, who fought side by side with his dad by now. So it's odd that they've decided to go with this characterization.
I looked it up; I didn't have all this memorized, but I do find it interesting.
Typo Boy - Apr 06, 2009 1:12:33 pm PDT #7774 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
A lot of choices seem to be less interesting than going with something closer to the original. To take a minor point: "Saul, Saul has slain his thousands, but David, David his tens of thousands" changes to a Queen-comment on bidding for a seat...
Juliebird - Apr 06, 2009 4:03:55 pm PDT #7775 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
I wouldn't go so far as to map the Kings characters onto those of Firefly's and declare it a neat fit, it was just a fleeting handful of moments from Thomasina, last week and this, and her calling Silas on his shit. But the characters are uniquely their own, and Thomasina's relief after getting promoted was very un-Zoe-like and ended the vibe for me.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 06, 2009 5:21:04 pm PDT #7776 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I think writers often have a difficult time creating a virtuous character who is interesting.
I mean Neo was perhaps the least interesting character in the Matrix trilogy
The Wachowskis did fine by Morpheus, and he was plenty virtuous. Of course, he was also played by Lawrence Fishburne as opposed to Keanu, but I think at least a small share of the difference was already on the page.
If I ever have a daughter, I'll name her Haggith. And then I'll teach her to fight.
If you name her Haggith, her classmates will take care of the teaching her to fight part for you.
Jessica - Apr 06, 2009 5:23:35 pm PDT #7777 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
The Wachowskis did fine by Morpheus, and he was plenty virtuous.
But also batshit crazy, which helps with the interesting.
I'm more or less okay with David being boring at this juncture, because we need at least one character in there who isn't harboring a Deep Dark Sooper-Seekrit.
Didn't the name Haggith just turn into Agatha?
Vortex - Apr 06, 2009 5:27:51 pm PDT #7778 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I mean Neo was perhaps the least interesting character in the Matrix trilogy
It doesn't help that the actor playing the character has about as much emotion as a block of wood.
Morgana - Apr 06, 2009 5:32:44 pm PDT #7779 of 30001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
It doesn't help that the actor playing the character has about as much emotion as a block of wood.
But he's so pretty! And apparently smart enough to have built a career around that.