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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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brenda m - Mar 03, 2008 5:47:25 pm PST #712 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The preview for Juliana Marguiles show made it look possibly worth a look.

I saw the pilot last summer, and while I don't remember any details, I remember finding her character interesting and the show worth another look.


sumi - Mar 03, 2008 5:55:15 pm PST #713 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Found over at TWOP:

UPDATE: Our sources within "Smallville" tell us that Kristin Kreuk (Lana Lang) will be back for at least a portion of the season. Michael Rosenbaum (Lex Luthor) and Allison Mack (Chloe Sullivan) are still up in the air, although renegotiations are imminent now that there has been a pick up.

(They were quoting from this site - which I haven't visited.)


tiggy - Mar 03, 2008 5:58:41 pm PST #714 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

consider this my weekly bitch about the writers changing dates.

I did love Derek taking John to the park to see his father. totally made me tear up. i really hope they don't make him "bad".


sumi - Mar 03, 2008 6:03:29 pm PST #715 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

The futon critic says that they ordered 13 episodes but only shot 9:

ADDITIONAL NOTES:
due to the strike, only nine of the 13 episodes ordered this season have been completed.

(Read about it here.)


Juliebird - Mar 03, 2008 6:05:40 pm PST #716 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Yeah, as much as I loved the b-day present, that was a simple timeline to keep intact, unless with the current timeline pushing the future Judgement Day further and further back, the future history keeps getting rewritten and pushed back as well, so perhaps with all the timey wimey stuff, with a dash of Frequency consequences, this new future has Kyle being born *before* JD. Not that I'm keeping track of when the new JD actually is, if it's not in '97 anymore, or any of the timeline stuff, in fact. My head blew up when I read that Sarah and Kyle were supposed to be 19 in the first movie, so all bets are off on my planet.


Vortex - Mar 03, 2008 6:37:23 pm PST #717 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Seems that my cursing furiously at the tv saved Agent Ellison from sharing the same fate as other beloved and recently converted black FBI agents...

I find it unlikely that he wouldn't shoot Ellison. Yes, Ellison can't do anything to stop him, but the guy that would just randomly kill the guy from a school wouldn't leave a threat alive. OTOH, maybe Ellison has something to do with Judgment Day and that's why Cromartie left him alive. But, seeing as how the future has changed with Ellison believing in Judgment Day and now being pissed his friend was killed, that was perhaps the wrong move.


Juliebird - Mar 03, 2008 6:45:46 pm PST #718 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Yeah, in my relief I overlooked the implausibility of it. I did have a brief inkling that perhaps Ellison does indeed play some role in the coming apocalypse, because otherwise, yeah, why leave him alive when the gym teacher gets a possibly fatal shove to the wall.

Unless they are going the truly bizzare direction of the new and improved Cromartie learning to be more human. Which, based on his model, as much I as I understand it, wouldn't do that, or maybe not. It certainly would make things more interesting. Potential allies having the capability or persuasion to be bad, and bad guys having the potential to show "humanity". Definitely interesting tv viewing possibilities, as opposed to straigth-up "bad to the bone" villains, and with Garret Dillahunt in the role, that would give him some more room to play. But I could just be overly optimistic here.


quester - Mar 03, 2008 6:48:51 pm PST #719 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

The Ten Doctors: A fan comic. [link]

But what happens? It just ends!


Vortex - Mar 03, 2008 6:50:27 pm PST #720 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

theoretically, he could have chosen not to kill ellison because ellison was not an immediate threat, and it was not his mission. however seeing as how cromartie has injured/killed other people just for yelling at him (i.e. the coach),it's wierd that he would walk away unless there was something in his programming telling him not to kill ellison.


Ginger - Mar 03, 2008 6:53:02 pm PST #721 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I wondered whether Ellison might play some future role that the terminator had in his files. The other explanation is Cameron's focus on the mission. At that point, Ellison couldn't stop him, and Ellison isn't the mission.

eta: Ah, the wonders of the crosspost. In the gym, he was focused on finding John, so he threw aside someone who was trying to stop him.