Okay, I thought I was about to lose power there, so that last thought was a bit truncated. And I know I'm talking about a show I didn't watch, so I may be losing the thread here.

But if in the end he commits suicide to remain in the past, then the world of fantasy that he has entered dies with him in reality (okay, yes, fictional reality). And it strikes me the wrong way because it seems to me that the kids I know who have killed themselves did so partially because of a fantasy of what would happen (that they would be valued and appreciated after their death, that their death would give their life meaning, that people would care about them only if they died) but that fantasy of themselves died with them. In fact, people did care about them, but sadly did not adequately express that to them or provide for them in a way that allowed them to continue their lives. They were unable to see through their fantasy (nightmare) vision of their lives to find hope.

A storyline that begins and ends with the premise that suicide is the right choice in context of a fantasy causes problems for me.

Does that make any sense?

It does. I think a key difference is that his fantasy was something he had been experiencing, and extensively. He comes back to the "present" and can't find anything there for him.

So he's not gambling on an unknown, but going back something he does know, even as he understands that it won't last much beyond his actual trip back.

Yeah, it's why it's so sad in the context of the show. But I think as seen in the context of life it's almost unbearable. I mean, my kiddoes would express that they had been experiencing persistently the world they describe, and that there is nothing for them in the world everyone else seems to inhabit. For them to make the choice, as he did, to reject the present rather than pursue a way to create a life for themselves within it, the difficult way, grinding it out day after day, would be inexpressibly sad.

I'm extrapolating too much, I know, projecting. But the ending ended up being suicide as a metaphor for suicide for me, and a tough pill to swallow. Or at least to enjoy in the context of seeing a good story told well. I know mileage varies.

I've only seen a few episodes of each series of LoM and have enjoyed them enough that I had all of them sitting on a hard drive waiting for viewing in marathon some day. I really appreciate the (pink for me) font discussion here because I sit with Jen and Liese (and others)in that I would be very upset in both anger and sadness had I sat down to enjoy the series this summer and found it ended that way. I support and understand RL option of suicide, but I don't find it remotely entertaining, only deeply upsetting.

I'll stay tuned in thread to see how it ends before I watch.

I'm relieved I didn't know what the ending was before I saw it. It would have been hard to enjoy the entire series if I had.

I enjoyed the premiere of Reaper - probably for all the non-Sock things. I loved how it ended.

I didn't finish LoM. I saw the first 2 eps of the British show and was interested, but not deeply enough to finish.

Given the discussion above, I am SO GLAD I didn't finish it. I would have been ticked off.

Also, the REAPER premiere? Sock is just making me want to quit this show.

I am definitely on the same wavelength. Maybe I repressed how utterly annoying and entertainment-sucking I found his character in the previous run, but it took me by surprise in the season premiere.

Also, so very tired of Sam having to constantly coddle and apologize to Andi, something I'd hoped was a thing of the past once she knew about the existence of the supernatural and its role in his life.

You know, I feel kind of stupid because I forgot about Nicky, too. As a viewer, I'm allowed to forget about the child: but his father isn't. So, yeah. I'm suddenly much less sympathetic to Tyrol.

I finally caught up with BSG!

Nicky doesn't really color my view of Tyrol very much. I have it in my head that Nicky was a mistake of the writers and the Hot Dog affair was just writing Nicky out of the plot. I think they would have been better off to not have Tyrol as one of the FF and avoided the awkward Nicky problem.

You know, Tory could have airlocked Nicky and Callie at the same time. You would think she would know he wasn't half-Cylon (the reason I'd assumed she saved him in the first place).