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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Mar 03, 2009 6:49:56 pm PST #7080 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It does. I think a key difference is that his fantasy was something he had been experiencing, and extensively. He comes back to the "present" and can't find anything there for him.

So he's not gambling on an unknown, but going back something he does know, even as he understands that it won't last much beyond his actual trip back.


Liese S. - Mar 03, 2009 7:21:23 pm PST #7081 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, it's why it's so sad in the context of the show. But I think as seen in the context of life it's almost unbearable. I mean, my kiddoes would express that they had been experiencing persistently the world they describe, and that there is nothing for them in the world everyone else seems to inhabit. For them to make the choice, as he did, to reject the present rather than pursue a way to create a life for themselves within it, the difficult way, grinding it out day after day, would be inexpressibly sad.

I'm extrapolating too much, I know, projecting. But the ending ended up being suicide as a metaphor for suicide for me, and a tough pill to swallow. Or at least to enjoy in the context of seeing a good story told well. I know mileage varies.


Laura - Mar 04, 2009 3:14:17 am PST #7082 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

I've only seen a few episodes of each series of LoM and have enjoyed them enough that I had all of them sitting on a hard drive waiting for viewing in marathon some day. I really appreciate the (pink for me) font discussion here because I sit with Jen and Liese (and others)in that I would be very upset in both anger and sadness had I sat down to enjoy the series this summer and found it ended that way. I support and understand RL option of suicide, but I don't find it remotely entertaining, only deeply upsetting.

I'll stay tuned in thread to see how it ends before I watch.


Nora Deirdre - Mar 04, 2009 4:20:21 am PST #7083 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I'm relieved I didn't know what the ending was before I saw it. It would have been hard to enjoy the entire series if I had.


sumi - Mar 04, 2009 4:21:13 am PST #7084 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

I enjoyed the premiere of Reaper - probably for all the non-Sock things. I loved how it ended.


le nubian - Mar 04, 2009 4:32:44 am PST #7085 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I didn't finish LoM. I saw the first 2 eps of the British show and was interested, but not deeply enough to finish.

Given the discussion above, I am SO GLAD I didn't finish it. I would have been ticked off.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 04, 2009 5:38:57 am PST #7086 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Also, the REAPER premiere? Sock is just making me want to quit this show.

I am definitely on the same wavelength. Maybe I repressed how utterly annoying and entertainment-sucking I found his character in the previous run, but it took me by surprise in the season premiere.

Also, so very tired of Sam having to constantly coddle and apologize to Andi, something I'd hoped was a thing of the past once she knew about the existence of the supernatural and its role in his life.


Gudanov - Mar 04, 2009 5:45:13 am PST #7087 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

You know, I feel kind of stupid because I forgot about Nicky, too. As a viewer, I'm allowed to forget about the child: but his father isn't. So, yeah. I'm suddenly much less sympathetic to Tyrol.

I finally caught up with BSG!

Nicky doesn't really color my view of Tyrol very much. I have it in my head that Nicky was a mistake of the writers and the Hot Dog affair was just writing Nicky out of the plot. I think they would have been better off to not have Tyrol as one of the FF and avoided the awkward Nicky problem.


Stephanie - Mar 04, 2009 6:33:50 am PST #7088 of 30001
Trust my rage

You know, Tory could have airlocked Nicky and Callie at the same time. You would think she would know he wasn't half-Cylon (the reason I'd assumed she saved him in the first place).


Gudanov - Mar 04, 2009 6:37:10 am PST #7089 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

You know, Tory could have airlocked Nicky and Callie at the same time.

I dunno, do you think they would want to do something dark like that on BSG?