I don't care if it is an orgy of death, there's still such a thing as a napkin.

Willow ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Theodosia - Jan 31, 2009 11:30:46 am PST #6558 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

FWIW, I've been known to pause and slo-mo my way through the opening blipvertsflashes, because they're carefully chosen by the producers so they run out of context or just give you a quick and perhaps wrong idea of what is coming.

Totally different when it's stupid SciFi Channel spoiling next week.


Consuela - Jan 31, 2009 11:33:22 am PST #6559 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Polter-Cow - Jan 31, 2009 11:47:37 am PST #6560 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh, I love the Poundry Drums of Spoilery Doom. They promised excitement, and the episode delivered.


sumi - Jan 31, 2009 12:11:07 pm PST #6561 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Mo Ryan interviews Mark Verheiden and then gives her impression of "The Oath."

Also - what if Ellen isn't the fifth?

And the fifth, still in shadow, will claw toward the light, hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering.

It was pointed out on TWOP that this could be a good description of Gaeta.


Consuela - Jan 31, 2009 1:42:41 pm PST #6562 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I strongly suspect Ellen isn't the Fifth. It's not enough of a surprise, given that she's already dead. Also, the only one to whom she's important is Tigh, and there's a very good chance he's dead.


brenda m - Jan 31, 2009 2:09:20 pm PST #6563 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Still and all, it does fit an apparent tendency for even unaware Cylons to seek each other out - Boomer and Tyrol, Anders and whateverthehell Starbuck is, Tigh and Ellen.

But I agree, I don't see how you bring Ellen back with no Tigh around and have it mean anything. And we've already seen that Tigh has episodes where he has trouble distinguishing between Ellen and Six.


DebetEsse - Jan 31, 2009 2:13:15 pm PST #6564 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Maybe Ellen's a Six.

No, this is not an elegant theory.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 31, 2009 2:15:47 pm PST #6565 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

That line about clawing reminds me of Yeats "Slouching Toward Bethlehem".

Also, who the heck is Narcho? I keep picturing one of the PCH gang from Veronica Mars (was his name Nardo?) but I know that isn't it. I don't think I have watched the episodes and talked about them enough to keep track of the minor characters.


Polter-Cow - Jan 31, 2009 2:16:49 pm PST #6566 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I keep picturing one of the PCH gang from Veronica Mars (was his name Nardo?)

Chardo.

I don't think I have watched the episodes and talked about them enough to keep track of the minor characters.

Me neither.


§ ita § - Jan 31, 2009 2:20:18 pm PST #6567 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I dunno--I think having anyone other than Ellen be the fifth is overthinking it. BSG doesn't lie, does it? I mean, it doesn't have a history of presenting information like that and changing it later.

I type that and then think of them retconning Nicky's parentage, but you know what I mean--a deliberate misdirect of the facts.