Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

'Serenity'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Torque - Jan 23, 2009 6:10:44 pm PST #6402 of 30001
Bad Wolf

So this episode is basically one big set up to a badass looking promo?

Sorry I know I'm being really down on this episode.


sumi - Jan 23, 2009 6:12:23 pm PST #6403 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Oh, this is DEFINITELY after the webisodes. At the end of the webisodes he was strongly anti-Cylon and had decided to go to the Admiral with that and obviously, knew that he'd be forced to go underground.

I can't believe you guys didn't recognize Hot Dog.

Man, it is all frakked up now.


JenP - Jan 23, 2009 6:13:25 pm PST #6404 of 30001

I'm not particularly down on the ep, because I think I'm being riled by what they want me to be riled by... by that which they want me to be riled? Anyway, they seem to be setting us up for a righteous showdown, and I look forward to it, but, oy, getting there is rough.


Torque - Jan 23, 2009 6:15:41 pm PST #6405 of 30001
Bad Wolf

That's why I keep my dramas at the beginning and the end of the week... the adrenaline never fades. Well it does then the promos come on.


JenP - Jan 23, 2009 6:16:07 pm PST #6406 of 30001

Hee.


Jessica - Jan 23, 2009 6:18:22 pm PST #6407 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Dear Tyrol,

Abandoning your dying toddler in the hospital? Yeah, I hope you die now. Which is a shame because you used to be one of my favorite characters.

I know this was mainly a bottle ep, but I really loved it. Lots of good meaty character stuff.

Maybe someone can clarify for me, though - Cottle said that Cally knew Hot Dog was the dad? In which case...why did she try to kill herself & Aaron? If she knew he wasn't half-Cylon, I mean.


§ ita § - Jan 23, 2009 6:20:14 pm PST #6408 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Cally might have known he was the dad, but maybe RDM didn't. I wonder if there's a good reason for them to make sure he's not half skinjob.

Tyrol was coming back to the kid, though.


sumi - Jan 23, 2009 6:22:55 pm PST #6409 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

If you hated the Cylons would you leave your baby to be raised by one?

And I don't get the Chief's reaction either: Nickie is still his son in the ways that matter.

After the 10th webisode I knew that Gaeta was in for it and I was happy for the actor. . . . but clearly he will be either dead due to the Revolution or executed in lieu of Zarek.


le nubian - Jan 23, 2009 6:25:08 pm PST #6410 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

could it be explained that Cally didn't know what she was doing and was half out of her mind and convinced herself that her child was Tyrol's?


Torque - Jan 23, 2009 6:26:59 pm PST #6411 of 30001
Bad Wolf

well he was in all the way that counts