We killed a homeless man on this bench. Me and Dru. Those were good times. You know, he begged for mercy, and you know, that only made her bite harder.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Torque - Jan 23, 2009 6:15:41 pm PST #6405 of 30001
Bad Wolf

That's why I keep my dramas at the beginning and the end of the week... the adrenaline never fades. Well it does then the promos come on.


JenP - Jan 23, 2009 6:16:07 pm PST #6406 of 30001

Hee.


Jessica - Jan 23, 2009 6:18:22 pm PST #6407 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Dear Tyrol,

Abandoning your dying toddler in the hospital? Yeah, I hope you die now. Which is a shame because you used to be one of my favorite characters.

I know this was mainly a bottle ep, but I really loved it. Lots of good meaty character stuff.

Maybe someone can clarify for me, though - Cottle said that Cally knew Hot Dog was the dad? In which case...why did she try to kill herself & Aaron? If she knew he wasn't half-Cylon, I mean.


§ ita § - Jan 23, 2009 6:20:14 pm PST #6408 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Cally might have known he was the dad, but maybe RDM didn't. I wonder if there's a good reason for them to make sure he's not half skinjob.

Tyrol was coming back to the kid, though.


sumi - Jan 23, 2009 6:22:55 pm PST #6409 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

If you hated the Cylons would you leave your baby to be raised by one?

And I don't get the Chief's reaction either: Nickie is still his son in the ways that matter.

After the 10th webisode I knew that Gaeta was in for it and I was happy for the actor. . . . but clearly he will be either dead due to the Revolution or executed in lieu of Zarek.


le nubian - Jan 23, 2009 6:25:08 pm PST #6410 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

could it be explained that Cally didn't know what she was doing and was half out of her mind and convinced herself that her child was Tyrol's?


Torque - Jan 23, 2009 6:26:59 pm PST #6411 of 30001
Bad Wolf

well he was in all the way that counts


JenP - Jan 23, 2009 6:37:47 pm PST #6412 of 30001

I don't think he's abandoning Nicky forever. I think he's getting Hot Dog in on the raising... and going to get his drunk on. I'm not saying it's the height of his days as a parent; I just don't think we're supposed to think that he's permanently abandoning him.

I'm not saying I approve, not defending - not at all. Just... he's not leaving for good, is all. I fully understand how rage inducing his behavior is.


Hayden - Jan 23, 2009 7:17:22 pm PST #6413 of 30001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I hope this season gets better. Whole lotta suckage in the last two episodes.


Kathy A - Jan 23, 2009 8:20:49 pm PST #6414 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Actually, I rather liked this ep! Or at least more than the other politics-heavy eps that featured the quorum being all dickish pawns of Zarek. It's definitely a bridge ep to Big Shit happening in later ep(s), but it wasn't a waste of time.

Loved that they answered the question of why Hera was a Big Deal but Nicky wasn't while giving us a glimpse that they might later answer the question of how the Six/Tigh progeny came about. Also loved that they finally got around to addressing Kara's loss of face in the fleet for being married to a Cylon as well as showing Tyrol being torn between his two people. (I was afraid after the previously on that Tory would be featured, and she's definitely one I am tired of.)

The Gaius bit was more to give him something to do since he's faded to the background in recent eps, but I liked that he's still got his Machiavelli on.

Really, there was a lot more I liked in this ep than I didn't. And it finally showed my OTP of Laura/Bill in bed post-nookie, enjoying themselves for once!!