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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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victor infante - Jan 18, 2009 5:34:52 am PST #6290 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Do you think it's not her body and ship on Earth, then?

Oh, no. I believe that that's Starbuck's real body. But -- and I suppose this is the central thesis of the show, really -- if the body Starbuck is in is mostly human, looks just like her and has all of her memories (minus some tampering to get her to lead people back to Earth, which seems significant) then who's to say it ISN'T really her?


Laura - Jan 18, 2009 6:45:38 am PST #6291 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Starbuck is put in the same position as we are having to figure out what has happened to her. With added extra angst. Personally, I could use a few clones, but she likely won't feel the same way.

There were so many things to love about the episode. Laura broke my heart with her devastation. The raw emotion between Tigh and Adama. Can't wait to see the happy Tigh couple reunion.

I'm very excited about this last run. Dee's end caused me to jump and gasp in a marvelous way. Keep it coming.


dcp - Jan 18, 2009 8:52:12 am PST #6292 of 30001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

if the body Starbuck is in is mostly human, looks just like her and has all of her memories (minus some tampering to get her to lead people back to Earth, which seems significant) then who's to say it ISN'T really her?

"This is my grandfather's axe. My father replaced the haft, and I replaced the head."


Jessica - Jan 18, 2009 8:57:23 am PST #6293 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

if the body Starbuck is in is mostly human, looks just like her and has all of her memories (minus some tampering to get her to lead people back to Earth, which seems significant) then who's to say it ISN'T really her?

I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying someone had to rebuild her after the original Starbuck crash-landed, and I can't think of a simpler explanation that doesn't involve some kind of time travel.


§ ita § - Jan 18, 2009 9:23:43 am PST #6294 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hidden cylon enclave? Or is it cheating to have more?


Theodosia - Jan 19, 2009 4:58:42 am PST #6295 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

We STILL haven't met the Cylon God, whom I'm convinced is an actual being (or at least ginormous computer being).


victor infante - Jan 19, 2009 5:06:09 am PST #6296 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

We STILL haven't met the Cylon God, whom I'm convinced is an actual being (or at least ginormous computer being).

I'll agree this far -- there does seem to be a master hand behind events, someone or something orchestrating everything.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 19, 2009 5:50:45 am PST #6297 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I am so going to laugh if they all wake up with Matrix-style computer jacks in the final episode and it turns out that everything was a big virtual reality simulation.


le nubian - Jan 19, 2009 5:59:11 am PST #6298 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm telling you, I totally think that when they saw earth at the end of last season, I was hoping for a shot of the human battery fields.

Or, we'd see T2.

I think that would have been WAY cool.

Sounds to me like they are going in a different direction though...


sumi - Jan 19, 2009 7:31:38 am PST #6299 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Kandyse McClure interview on ScifiWire.