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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Juliebird - Jan 16, 2009 5:49:34 pm PST #6232 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I didn't get teary-eyed over Dee. Not with Lee. Not until Papadama showed up drunk and confused.

When your last best hope, what kept you surviving for the past four years on the idea that you'd finally get to live again, turns out to be hopeless, what do you do? What's the point of surviving anymore? Contagious suicide, it seems.


Juliebird - Jan 16, 2009 6:02:56 pm PST #6233 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

shit on a shingle.

Who wants to talk about grim and depressing now?!

And I so had hoped that that spoiler I'd read was false.


§ ita § - Jan 16, 2009 6:02:57 pm PST #6234 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So the 5th cylon spoiler *was* true.

I'm not sure why Lee is so confused about Dee's motivation. She wanted to go out happy even though she thought there was nothing to live for.


sumi - Jan 16, 2009 6:10:25 pm PST #6235 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

I don't think he understood that - because suicide isn't in his head at all.

(And I thought when he left that he was more angry - possibly because it appears he's the child of two alcoholics not just one.)

And Kara is going to keep that secret.

I love how freaked out Leoben was by what the Hybrid has said to Kara.

And I knew that we'd find out who the fifth was right away. . . if that's what that means.


Kathy A - Jan 16, 2009 6:12:29 pm PST #6236 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Did they actually say that the planet wasn't actually our Earth, but the planet that the 13th colony (of Cylons) decided to call Earth?


Juliebird - Jan 16, 2009 6:13:11 pm PST #6237 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Dee's suicide: I was also getting a vibe that Dee wanted kids, but why bother with such a bleak future? But I think Gaeta would be more in tune with Dee's desire to end her life happy than Lee would be.

And Kara is going to keep that secret.

I loved how they set it up that Kara might tell Lee about finding her own dead body, but once the news of Lee's other love dying hit, there was no "So, you wanted to tell me something?" "Oh, nevermind, it's not that important." They just ended the scene.


sumi - Jan 16, 2009 6:15:59 pm PST #6238 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Juliebird - exactly.

Kathy - I don't think I heard THAT. The flashbacks certainly lookly Earthesque.


sumi - Jan 16, 2009 6:16:36 pm PST #6239 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

And they're still putting up new clues on the youwilllearnthe truth site.


Juliebird - Jan 16, 2009 6:19:37 pm PST #6240 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I forget, beyond the final fifth cylon, was there another cylon still left to be revealed?

Either way, I'm so glad they got the FF out of the way off the bat.

I just had a sad thought reading over on TWoP: with Leoben so freaked over Kara, I doubt we'll see much of him anymore. I'm still trying to wipe the taste of the second X-Files movie out of my brain.


sumi - Jan 16, 2009 6:24:02 pm PST #6241 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Officially, there are 12 cylons but I could swear that there are theories about a possible 13th cylon - that could be Starbuck. . . because what the hell is she?