Officially, there are 12 cylons but I could swear that there are theories about a possible 13th cylon - that could be Starbuck. . . because what the hell is she?
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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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sumi - Jan 16, 2009 6:24:02 pm PST #6241 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
Juliebird - Jan 16, 2009 6:28:28 pm PST #6242 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
My first thought after the reveal of the cylon inhabitants of Earth was that the follow through is: if the inhabitants of Earth spread out to the other colonies, then by default all the colonies are populated by Cylon decendants of those that escaped Earth. Everyone is a Cylon. But the episode never hit on that. But I'm also really really fuzzy on my BSG lore.
Also, what the hell with finally making a character interesting (again) only to kill her? Why does character death bring out the good writing and the tight focus?
Glamcookie - Jan 16, 2009 9:39:56 pm PST #6243 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
Yeah, I thought they were saying basically that we're all Cylons (those of us that live on Earth). I told DW, "You're a frakkin toaster!"
Ailleann - Jan 17, 2009 4:53:21 am PST #6244 of 30001
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So, if the "final five" have memories of being alive on Earth previously, then... were they the only ones? If the entire colony, or at least large pockets of it, were Cylon, then were there only five forms? Or were there more, that we haven't met yet? Or were there iterations of the other forms we've already met, and they just don't have any memory of it?
DCJensen - Jan 17, 2009 5:05:57 am PST #6245 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.
So, how about that Smallville?
beekaytee - Jan 17, 2009 12:17:51 pm PST #6246 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant
I'm low on lore too, but it seemed pretty blatant that the truth will be that the problem isn't that there is no Earth, but that there are no humans.
Which makes Adama's speech even more poignant.
What do you decide to be when you find out you aren't you? That shit is deep.
It also screams of Planet of the Apes and Pogo. "We have seen the face of the enemy and it is us."
Sophia Brooks - Jan 17, 2009 12:23:43 pm PST #6247 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
I am annoyed that I got spoiled by the comments about the webisodes on hulu! I tried to write it off, but the comment was right. Reminds me of the time when I was spoiled for Tara's death by imdb (it put an end date of the actress's time on the show before they showed her death.
§ ita § - Jan 17, 2009 12:30:16 pm PST #6248 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It didn't bring me to the conclusion that there are no humans, otherwise there wouldn't be a human/Cylon test. Now, how come there were Cylons millenia ago I don't get. But I expect that will come out in time.
le nubian - Jan 17, 2009 12:40:07 pm PST #6249 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
well, there are different kinds of cylons though. so the test that Baltar developed was to discern the 7. I would bet it doesn't work on the 5.
§ ita § - Jan 17, 2009 12:47:21 pm PST #6250 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Fair enough. They must have been tested. But it could discern the old ones they used to be...