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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Shir - Dec 20, 2008 6:31:16 pm PST #5905 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I think I could listen to Tennant's doing anything, but I think it's just the Dr. Who crush.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 21, 2008 5:40:49 am PST #5906 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Fay, have you seen this one? He goes verra Scottish.

ZOMG! I'd never seen that before. Fuckin' hilarious.

So having not really known about Catherine Tate before Doctor Who would her becoming a companion be like the equivalent of, say, Tina Fey becoming the second in command on a new Trek show?


Fay - Dec 21, 2008 6:43:36 am PST #5907 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Yes. Pretty much.

Which is why I was pretty dubious initially, and watched her in the Christmas Special after Season 2 with a sense of "...but you're Catherine Tate. Am I bovvered?"

But then, to be fair, Billie Piper was just as famous, and much more of a figure of fun - honestly, I winced when I heard she'd been cast as the Doctor's assistant. But she did a cracking job, and really made a name for herself as an actress through that role (I know it wasn't her first acting role, but I think it's fair to say that she was still generally perceived as a has-been Britney wannabe who'd had an embarrassing whirlwind marriage to ginger minger gazillionaire Chris Evans. I still remember when she was a guest on his show and he was letching all over her - showering her with flowers and suchlike. She was about 18 at the time, and he would have been 34 or so. It was all a bit creepy, watching him put the moves on her live on air. And then her music career sort of vanished away, and it was all a bit pathetic.) But she's definitely had the last laugh! Well done, Billie!

Aaaanyway, yes - The Catherine Tate Show was enormously popular, and generated various catchphrases. It was a sketch show, featuring some painfully well-observed characters - Lauren the teenager, Nan Taylor (a cockney grandmother) and a very parochial middle class wife are the ones I'm aware of. It ran for 3 seasons, from 2004 or thereabouts, I think.


§ ita § - Dec 21, 2008 6:56:08 am PST #5908 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

YouTube has a fair amount of her stuff online, I discovered while aimlessly poking around.


Theodosia - Dec 21, 2008 7:20:46 am PST #5909 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

We also noticed in my household that Tate has a figure like a Real Woman, and was dressed very well for it, too.


SailAweigh - Dec 21, 2008 12:12:50 pm PST #5910 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Oh, yes. I think that's what I liked most about Tate as Donna. She wasn't young and she wasn't a sylph. She acted and looked like an adult, not a teenybopper. I found her character much more layered that Rose ever was. And minus the embarassing crush that Martha had on the Doctor.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 21, 2008 12:29:07 pm PST #5911 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Which is why I was pretty dubious initially, and watched her in the Christmas Special after Season 2 with a sense of "...but you're Catherine Tate. Am I bovvered?"

Well, I do know that I really didn't love that Xmas special, and (and I don't think I'm the only one) who was less than thrilled that she'd be taking Martha's place (who I adored). But she won me over. I didn't HATE that Xmas special (especially since it showed Tennant's unforgiving side of the Doctor, and I DID like how Donna called him on it), but I couldn't see how she'd sustain. Which she did - superlatively!


Vortex - Dec 21, 2008 2:50:42 pm PST #5912 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Fay, have you seen this one? He goes verra Scottish.

There's a clip I love of him introducing the Pussycat Dolls ("singing" group) The way he says "Pussy" cracks me up

Well, I do know that I really didn't love that Xmas special, and (and I don't think I'm the only one) who was less than thrilled that she'd be taking Martha's place (who I adored). But she won me over. I didn't HATE that Xmas special (especially since it showed Tennant's unforgiving side of the Doctor, and I DID like how Donna called him on it), but I couldn't see how she'd sustain. Which she did - superlatively!

she still annoyed me often, but she was a good companion. I liked that she often soldiered on in spite of how scared she was.


Shir - Dec 21, 2008 7:38:08 pm PST #5913 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I liked that she often soldiered on in spite of how scared she was.

That's the thing about me and Dr. Who. I know I would never be a companion, because I'm such a chicken.

Still, would love to travel the TARDIS. With Tennant as the Dr..


DCJensen - Dec 22, 2008 2:26:34 am PST #5914 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I wish they would explore the Tardis more. I always liked it when they had budget cuts and just threw in random rooms.

Swimming pool! Solarium! Observatory! Snack bar #4! Cozy lounge with all comfy couches!

The possibilities are endless.