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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Calli - Sep 21, 2008 2:52:14 pm PDT #4799 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

John--there's something not quite right about him. I don't know how to explain it. Something about his vagueness I think would annoy after a while.

I tend to be oddly distant and vague myself, so someone like John would probably be compatible for me.

am slain by Ronon's reaction to the pregnancy news. Bless him. He is a wee scone. A wee scone with the most amazing arms, and a reassuringly big gun.

Yes, Ronon's reaction was by far the best of the guys' in that situation.


Anne W. - Sep 21, 2008 2:57:28 pm PDT #4800 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

how does he fare with steak? Chicken wings?

I always imagined that he touched them twice really fast before eating.


§ ita § - Sep 21, 2008 2:57:44 pm PDT #4801 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ronon just reacted like a normal person, right? I mean, unlike the objectifying/infantilising reactions of the other guys?


Juliebird - Sep 21, 2008 3:01:04 pm PDT #4802 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Ronon wins, hands down, but he wins me, not Keller. ME!

I actually wished that they would really delve into the intangible distant vagueness that is John Shepherd. I used to find him so intriguing with his loner-habits and seeming lack of family and general blowing-in-the-wind non-attachment. I know they have at times, but then it seemed either shallow or to destroy that initial mythos entirely. I still remember him as the guy who didn't write anyone any letter at all when deciding to join Atlantis (unless, of course, I'm totally misremembering).


quester - Sep 21, 2008 4:34:34 pm PDT #4803 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

the other major, who's name escapes me, was cool about it too. Lorne! Major Lorne, right?


Calli - Sep 21, 2008 4:51:06 pm PDT #4804 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Yep—Maj. Evan Lorne.


Juliebird - Sep 21, 2008 4:52:32 pm PDT #4805 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'm sure Lorne was cool about it, because Lorne rocks. Until the writers give him more screentime and mutilate him.

I was unimpressed and underwhelmed by the Rodney/Ronon interactions this past ep. It felt like they were back to some sort of square one without the respect Ronon has developed for Rodney over the months/years, as well as the competence Rodney has obtained and the field experience and respect thereof deserving. But Rodney was extra whiny and defensive and Ronon was extra grunty. Sure sure, they (Rodney) was feeling defensive and emasculated with Keller's affections on the line, but, no.

And, the new runner, Kirek? I didn't buy him pseudo-adopting the girl in conjunction with his guilt over getting her village wiped out. It would have been so much easier to drop her off at a village, remove his GPS'd ass far away from her and keep running. They tried to do something emotionally complicated with his wanting to keep her, coupled with his readiness to die/stop running, but it didn't work for me. It felt so much like they needed a reason to have him have this girl with him, but didn't do a good job in explaining why he didn't leave her with a doctor immediately, rather than compounding his unintentional village genocide with risking the very life he's trying to save. Suddenly it becomes about needing companionship? Maybe if the whole dead village thing hadn't been involved, I could have bought that, MAYBE, except for the whole looming "marked for death, half-dead kid slows you down, his death sentence dooms the kid, lose-lose."

Not as horrible as some eps, but too full of contrivances and bad characterization for Ronon and Rodney for me.

I did enjoy Shep's moment of jealousy in the beginning, though. Seems about all he's good for these days.


Juliebird - Sep 21, 2008 5:16:00 pm PDT #4806 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Kix is for Kids:

Another thing I noticed watching PD in a fairly marathon run is Kristen Chenowith's character Olive. She really gets treated like poo by Ned, which makes me mad. I get that she's sometimes overly agressive in her affections and Ned has a lot on his plate, but for the most part, he's very dismissive of her in a very very rude way, which ticks me off like whoa. Especially when we're given so much info on how she's being big about what she feels and Ned is just mean. Sure, when you have an overly agressive affectionate suitor (suitess?) you need to draw the line definitively with someone you don't reciprocate with, and maybe KC is just too cute, but my heart can't help but go out for her and be angry with Ned for being all "Not now/Close up the shop/Go away". And that anger includes Emerson, who is just as guilty as Ned, if not moreso.


Fay - Sep 22, 2008 2:41:01 am PDT #4807 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Yes, I agree that Olive really gets short shrift, and really is awesome. I loved the way that Olive and Chuck eventually became friends, regardless of their feelings for Ned. A mighty yay for girly bonding in black leather catsuits, rather than having pouty catfights.

Still watching Season 4 of SGA, and I've reached the Teal'c (?sp?)-comes-to-Atlantis ep.

I'm finding it difficult to watch. Sam has just said "Hey, this is Teal'c, and you guys have so much in common!" or words to that effect, which has left me staring blankly at the screen.

Teal'c and Teyla? Have quite a lot in common. Philosophically, in terms of dispositions, and in terms of leadership roles. Ronon and Teal'c...well, okay, yes, both are professional soldiers who've dedicated their lives to fighting tooth and nail against galaxy-conquering ubermonsters. Um. But that description is true of many, if not most, characters in the Stargate universe.

Difficult not to hear that as "You're the token muscle-bound warriors-of-colour, kind of like Man Friday in Space! And, hey, Teyla and I have lots in common too! Because we're the token girls in our respective teams!"

Which is just very disappointing after watching Trio.

The way that Ronon's reaction to the introduction is, unaccountably, all Clueless Caveman With No Social Skills is making me want to leave the room in embarrassment. Unless he's hearing Sam's Musclebound-Man-Friday schtick and feeling patronised, but in that case I'd expect him to be rude to her.

I'm not sure I want to watch this episode.

Anyway, right - I finished Book One of Avatar, and it rocked mightily! Prince Zuko is the woobiest woobie who ever woobed! Curse those pesky writers, delivering drop kicks to my Lex Luthor buttons!

So, what kind of Bender (heh) would you want to be? I'm thinking fire, just because it looks so awesome, but actually water would probably be more fun. Or air. Water or air, I think, upon balance, despite the gut-reaction of "Oooh! Fire from my FINGERS!" Because it would just learn to burny death, or at least singed eyebrows. Or, hey, singed other things, if you got all flamey at an inconvenient moment! Now THAT would not be fun.

Water. Yeah.

(...I'm not going to ask if there's slash. Clearly people out there must be slashing Zuko MADLY.)

Awww - and how much do I love Zuko's uncle? LOTS! Bless him!

And I want to be one of the fandancing warrior ladies. They had excellent makeup, nice outfits and THEY KICK ASS WITH FANS OF DOOM!!!

Love that.


Ash - Sep 22, 2008 4:55:26 am PDT #4808 of 30001

I've reached a place where I just have to look ahead and see where the Ronan-centered episodes are. I watch those for the yummy, try to contain my embarrassment at the atrocious writing, and skip all the other episodes. I'm making a Ronan tape so I can just keep some of those around and not bother with the rest.

I look back at some of the writing I've done in the past and think "Okay that's really not very good"... but compared with SGA's writing I'm Patricia McKillip.