Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.

Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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SailAweigh - Aug 19, 2008 4:58:56 pm PDT #4251 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Aw, fuck!


Juliebird - Aug 19, 2008 5:06:17 pm PDT #4252 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I... I... just... no!

I sat with my hand over my mouth the minute Stark said something nice to Fargo, and it stayed there until I had to turn off the TV to avoid wrestling.'

Just... no.

I mean, it was wonderfully subtle where I thought nothing had happened at first. They snuck it up on us, all the while telegraphing that it was going to happen.

But, no. For at least two reasons: no more Stark snark, no more of the Stark & Carter Show. And secondly, don't make Stark's death the next stumbling block between Allison and Carter, because I know they're going down that road and want to put up as many obstacles as possible, so this is just horrid.

And then there's the vidder in me seeing so much potential with the wedding dress and the scenes that can be interpreted as Carter marrying Allison, and I'm madly gleeful.

Oh, Quinn!

Odd how we get another ep dealing in time travel and another loved one dies. I see a fetish amongst the writers.


SailAweigh - Aug 19, 2008 5:10:08 pm PDT #4253 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I am so tempted to go find some spoiler sites, or even just check imdb to see if he's listed on more episodes for the season. Waaaaah, I don't want Stark to go, either.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 19, 2008 5:11:15 pm PDT #4254 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Anybody else think that Carter's going to forget to give the necklace to Allison, and somehow that's to key to getting Stark back?

Because I'm not at ALL convinced Stark is gone for good.

But, oh yeah - some serious HSQ there. Damn, that was Whedon worthy.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 19, 2008 5:12:53 pm PDT #4255 of 30001
What is even happening?

I call that tonight on Eureka, since it is the Groundhog Day episode, that the "for one of these people tonight will be the end" means that someone or ones will die a horrible (or funny) death, but then the day starts over and everyone is alive and well and Carter keeps them from dying (or leaving) EVER.

Or at least that's my explanation for the promo monkeys for saying shit like that.

Would that it were.

Also? What the hell? I respect a show that will kill off characters, because Joss dragged me up right, but Nathan? Nathan? Nathan? What the hell were they thinking?

(Sorry CFerg, it's just...oof.)


Juliebird - Aug 19, 2008 5:18:49 pm PDT #4256 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

An interesting thing I noted during tonights ep was Stark changing his reasoning for Carter to get to the wedding on time. Either is was appealing to Carter's sympathetic side with "it's Allison's big day, don't fuck it up" or it was a stern, dismissive put-down of "I've got important work to do, go away so that you don't fuck it up."

I don't know what to make of that yet, if anything. I don't know if the writers are that clever.

And, I if this is Stark's death, then I want him dead, no cheating. If Kim couldn't come back, Stark can't either. It hurts, but I don't want a big red reset button on death. As much as I'll miss the Quinn...

I'm so conflicted. Of course if they hit that big red button I'll be all onboard. But I've had my fill of cheating from SG-1 and Atlantis and all the other crappy, cheating shows that I've had the displeasure of watching.


Vortex - Aug 19, 2008 5:22:54 pm PDT #4257 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Tivo delay-

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! That was Jossian in its execution.


Juliebird - Aug 19, 2008 5:30:13 pm PDT #4258 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Also, with Stark's death, I wasn't being totally facetious with regards to the Carter/Stark Show. That's a huge dynamic that's gone. Not just with Allison, but the love/hate relationship with Carter. The push and pull. The grudging respect and the absolute disdain and stumbling block, and I don't see Thorne as able to fill that gap, not even on the latter part, not in the fun way that was already established.

Speaking of Jossian, I immediately thought of Wesley and Angel, giving each other their manly nods as Wes went off to his doom, when Stark and Carter had their goodbyes. *sniff*


JenP - Aug 19, 2008 5:41:46 pm PDT #4259 of 30001

I'd build the reset button myself if I could.

Phooey.


Vortex - Aug 19, 2008 5:45:16 pm PDT #4260 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

And he called him Jack at the end!

But, I'm hoping that they will do some other time issue and Stark will appear out of nowhere. I'm going with the rule of soap operas, if there's no body, the character will be back! (I mean usually they fall off of a cliff or there's a mysterious explosion, but this could work)