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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! That was Jossian in its execution.
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Vortex - Aug 19, 2008 5:22:54 pm PDT #4257 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Juliebird - Aug 19, 2008 5:30:13 pm PDT #4258 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Also, with Stark's death, I wasn't being totally facetious with regards to the Carter/Stark Show. That's a huge dynamic that's gone. Not just with Allison, but the love/hate relationship with Carter. The push and pull. The grudging respect and the absolute disdain and stumbling block, and I don't see Thorne as able to fill that gap, not even on the latter part, not in the fun way that was already established.
Speaking of Jossian, I immediately thought of Wesley and Angel, giving each other their manly nods as Wes went off to his doom, when Stark and Carter had their goodbyes. *sniff*
JenP - Aug 19, 2008 5:41:46 pm PDT #4259 of 30001
I'd build the reset button myself if I could.
Phooey.
Vortex - Aug 19, 2008 5:45:16 pm PDT #4260 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
And he called him Jack at the end!
But, I'm hoping that they will do some other time issue and Stark will appear out of nowhere. I'm going with the rule of soap operas, if there's no body, the character will be back! (I mean usually they fall off of a cliff or there's a mysterious explosion, but this could work)
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 19, 2008 5:45:35 pm PDT #4261 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Did I miss a line about how Fargo wouldn't have been able to get the job done and Stark had a choice between dying or dying along with everybody else? Because no way do I buy him sacrificing his own life for the good of others if there were anyone else who could do it instead.
quester - Aug 19, 2008 5:46:37 pm PDT #4262 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
WTF!!??? Whoa!
Vortex - Aug 19, 2008 5:48:38 pm PDT #4263 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Because no way do I buy him sacrificing his own life for the good of others if there were anyone else who could do it instead.
I don't think that he thought Fargo could do it.
Typo Boy - Aug 19, 2008 9:05:36 pm PDT #4264 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
I'm with Vortex. With odds against anyone succeeding, and the fate of the universe at stake, Stark would not trust the job to anyone but himself.
And given that it had to be done right the first time, no second chances, and the alternative was Fargo, I have to say that Stark made the right choice. Fargo, as written, could easily have frozen or otherwise screwed up. It needed calmness under pressure, which was much more a Stark skill than a Fargo skill.
Juliebird - Aug 20, 2008 12:12:45 am PDT #4265 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
It's a bit wrong that this is the first time that I believed that Allison was really in love with Stark. Sally really sold it.
That thing I said about the repetition of "I'll always be here for you, no matter what" being annoying? I finally realized that it was the set-up for the final repetition/punch in the gut. I'll have to rewatch to see if that statement was said with different meanings throughout the episode. Same with "It's Allie's big day" and maybe some other repeated phrases whose meaning changed as the story progressed.
§ ita § - Aug 20, 2008 1:17:55 am PDT #4266 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I was spoiled for this ep, and I kinda wish I hadn't been. Still, I thought it well executed, and it's the first time I bought Allison with either Stark or Carter. But I severely still don't want her with Jack.
And now we have Lexie. I swear, that actress is pregnant a lot. I wondder how long she stays, and why it seems so easy for her to set up stead. It's all in who you know.
Oh, and I'm sad that we didn't get a wee bit more exploitation of Ed Quinn for his body before they evaporated him. If he comes back, it should be for that at least.