Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 03, 2008 1:31:27 pm PDT #4020 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

eh, I'm kind of with her. I would think that the new Doctor wouldn't want to be with her, since she would always see him as second best.

I also can't see a Doctor with significant personality traits from Donna being terribly indulgent of Rose's need to be the center of the universe. Donna was exactly what the Doctor needed to whap him upside the head and stop his moping, but can you imagine Rose's reaction the first time her Doctor yells "OI, SHUT IT!" at her?


Vortex - Aug 03, 2008 1:33:47 pm PDT #4021 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

True, but I doubt that Rose would do anything to prompt that. Donna, while having some good traits, could be exceedingly annoying.

Hey, here's something I didn't see anyone talk about --

why/how did the door close on Donna? Was it Dalek Khan? Was it the Tardis acting to save itself?


WindSparrow - Aug 03, 2008 2:41:47 pm PDT #4022 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

SG-1 fanfic in stick figures: [link]


SailAweigh - Aug 03, 2008 2:51:58 pm PDT #4023 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

why/how did the door close on Donna?

I got the impression it was Dalek Caan. And prophecy. At least we didn't get any demon spawn out of the deal.


victor infante - Aug 03, 2008 3:22:35 pm PDT #4024 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

It's actually a little problem I have with Captain Jack. He's supposed to be omni/bisexual, but he only shows overt attraction to men (Gwen notwithstanding). This, of course, could be my bitterness/wishful thinking.

Uhm, I think you need to go back and watch some of Jack's interactions with just about every character who wasn't shooting at him on either show. From romancing Rose when he meets her, to flirting with the old secretary at Reese's trucking company, there's been lots of overt attraction to women. He just seems to more easily end up in bed (or wherever's convenient) with men.


Vortex - Aug 03, 2008 3:53:35 pm PDT #4025 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I got the impression it was Dalek Caan.

I like my spelling better -- KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!


WindSparrow - Aug 03, 2008 4:05:14 pm PDT #4026 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Uhm, I think you need to go back and watch some of Jack's interactions with just about every character who wasn't shooting at him on either show. From romancing Rose when he meets her, to flirting with the old secretary at Reese's trucking company, there's been lots of overt attraction to women. He just seems to more easily end up in bed (or wherever's convenient) with men.

Not to mention that relationship he'd had with the old woman who loved fairies - whom he had obviously loved when she was of an age, and then put himself back in her life when enough time had passed he could pretend he was the son of her old flame. That was an important love to him, more than just sex, but I have a hard time thinking the two of them were entirely chaste with one another. Too much passion for that, and too much wistfulness on Jack's part for him to have looked her up simply for charity's sake.


Typo Boy - Aug 03, 2008 5:25:52 pm PDT #4027 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah my read on Captain Jack is that his omnisexuality, though highly inclusive of women, still is stronger towards men. And after all, no reason bi-sexuality or omni-sexuality has to be divided exactly 50/50 between genders.


DCJensen - Aug 03, 2008 5:59:12 pm PDT #4028 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I want Jenny to show up and Donna to go into crisis, and remember everything. Once she gets cured, she gets to tear the Doctor a new one.

if she doesnt remember the Doctor, how can she remember Jenny? Although I guess Jenny might talk to her and jog her memory.

Exactly.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 03, 2008 6:32:55 pm PDT #4029 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't know... I get the sense that the Doctor is the great unrequited love of Jack's life, and he ended up involved in an affair with Ianto, so the gay end of the spectrum is getting more screentime. But I could have easily seen them choosing to develop something between Jack and Gwen instead (which actually seems to have been the way they intended to go before the decision to keep Rhys alive and the popularity of the Jack/Ianto pairing moved things onto the current track). I do kind of wish they'd made the love/hate character from his past Captain Jane Hart and cast someone like Suzi Plakson instead, for better gender parity and less point-by-point similarity to Angel.