True, but I doubt that Rose would do anything to prompt that. Donna, while having some good traits, could be exceedingly annoying.
Hey, here's something I didn't see anyone talk about --
why/how did the door close on Donna? Was it Dalek Khan? Was it the Tardis acting to save itself?
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why/how did the door close on Donna?
I got the impression it was Dalek Caan. And prophecy. At least we didn't get any demon spawn out of the deal.
It's actually a little problem I have with Captain Jack. He's supposed to be omni/bisexual, but he only shows overt attraction to men (Gwen notwithstanding). This, of course, could be my bitterness/wishful thinking.
Uhm, I think you need to go back and watch some of Jack's interactions with just about every character who wasn't shooting at him on either show. From romancing Rose when he meets her, to flirting with the old secretary at Reese's trucking company, there's been lots of overt attraction to women. He just seems to more easily end up in bed (or wherever's convenient) with men.
I got the impression it was Dalek Caan.
I like my spelling better -- KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
Uhm, I think you need to go back and watch some of Jack's interactions with just about every character who wasn't shooting at him on either show. From romancing Rose when he meets her, to flirting with the old secretary at Reese's trucking company, there's been lots of overt attraction to women. He just seems to more easily end up in bed (or wherever's convenient) with men.
Not to mention that relationship he'd had with the old woman who loved fairies - whom he had obviously loved when she was of an age, and then put himself back in her life when enough time had passed he could pretend he was the son of her old flame. That was an important love to him, more than just sex, but I have a hard time thinking the two of them were entirely chaste with one another. Too much passion for that, and too much wistfulness on Jack's part for him to have looked her up simply for charity's sake.
Yeah my read on Captain Jack is that his omnisexuality, though highly inclusive of women, still is stronger towards men. And after all, no reason bi-sexuality or omni-sexuality has to be divided exactly 50/50 between genders.
I don't know... I get the sense that the Doctor is the great unrequited love of Jack's life, and he ended up involved in an affair with Ianto, so the gay end of the spectrum is getting more screentime. But I could have easily seen them choosing to develop something between Jack and Gwen instead (which actually seems to have been the way they intended to go before the decision to keep Rhys alive and the popularity of the Jack/Ianto pairing moved things onto the current track). I do kind of wish they'd made the love/hate character from his past Captain Jane Hart and cast someone like Suzi Plakson instead, for better gender parity and less point-by-point similarity to Angel.
It's actually a little problem I have with Captain Jack. He's supposed to be omni/bisexual, but he only shows overt attraction to men (Gwen notwithstanding).
But, but, but...Rose! Martha! (Having just rewatched that whole Jack-meets-Martha episode, with all the bonding about their shared Doctor UST and vague Rose-resentment, I sort of want to hug the both of them.) The blue chick (Chan Tho?) who was The Master's loyal sidekick! And he's mad into Gwen (and pretty clearly would have been all over the notion of a Gwen/Jack/Ianto sandwich, when she walked in on him shagging Ianto that time), and as pointed out there was Fairy!Lady too, bless her, and Rhys's secretary...
Sorry, I don't mean to pile on. I agree that there have v. likely been more references to ex boyfriends/evidence of Jack falling hard for blokes (John, The Doctor, Ianto) than for women.
But why the bitterness, love? He's pretty much 'Yay, people! With sex drives! Yay!' (...I mean, Vortex, you're totally in there, love! Er. You know, once you've figured out how to step through the screen into his reality, that is. And assuming you're not being attacked by anything monstrous and armed at that point. Er. Which can't have been the point you were making, but somehow I seem to have wandered offtopic and now to be writing RPS Vortex/Cap'n Jack in my reply...er. I blame your cleavage. It can distract a person.)
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I get the sense that the Doctor is the great unrequited love of Jack's life
Yes, indeed - and I have to say, rewatching that Jack-finds-The-Doctor episode in Season 3 really made me want to smack the Doctor over the head. He
saw
Jack coming, and he still legged it. And was quite unapologetic about it when he saw Jack sprawled 'dead' (even assuming he somehow knew about the whole deathproof thing). I mean, really - WTF? 'Oh noes, a hot bloke who adores me [and my Rosie] and who cannot die? The possibility for a friend and/or lover who WON'T leave me all alone? A possible end to my endless emo manpain? I must flee! Flee like a fleeing thing that fleetly flees!'
Between that, and The Doctor's slightly proud "she fancied me" acknowledgement about Martha at the start of Season 4, I did sort of want to smack him over the head. Quite a lot.
The Doctor:
not
relationship material, boys and girls. Really. His baggage has baggage,
and he likes it that way.
He and The Master
so
should have ended up together. (...only, without the whole Dobby Jesus shtick.)