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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Fay - Jul 15, 2008 12:38:47 am PDT #3634 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Man, Dame Judy would be fabulous.


Fiona - Jul 15, 2008 12:42:13 am PDT #3635 of 30001

RTD (and I know he's bowing out, but still) is on record as saying he thinks it would be a mistake to make the Doctor female. Actually, I tend to agree with him on that. Rachel Weisz as Romana though, no question.

And, following on from the Romana discussion, is it canon that male TimeLords regenerate as male, and female as female...?


Tom Scola - Jul 15, 2008 1:29:52 am PDT #3636 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

In the past, when the BBC were casting a new Doctor, they would sometimes drop hints that they were considering a woman for the role. But it was mostly a way of generating publicity; they were never really serious about it.


Anne W. - Jul 15, 2008 1:37:27 am PDT #3637 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I'm not ready for a new Doctor quite yet, but probably will be after one more season.

Rachel Weisz as Romana though

That would be fabulous. Now you've got my brain spinning off onto my wish-list for Romana casting.

As for the Eleventh Doctor, I would love to see any of the following: Idris Elba, Damian Lewis, Alexander Siddig, Rufus Sewell (Edit: Tilda Swinton would be fabulous as well)


Theodosia - Jul 15, 2008 1:41:19 am PDT #3638 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

As long as we're casting fantasy Doctors, how about Callum Keith Rennie? Who can play charming and quirky as easily as serious or haunted?


Jessica - Jul 15, 2008 3:03:15 am PDT #3639 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I feel like if they were going to make the Doctor female, they should have done it with Nine, right at the start of rebooting the franchise. Doing it with Eleven (or Twelve) would feel very much like a stunt.

Edit: Tilda Swinton would be fabulous as well

Oh wow. Forget everything I said above, I want THIS.


Fay - Jul 15, 2008 4:00:44 am PDT #3640 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Callum Keith Rennie? See, I think that if he were to play an iconic British character, he should be John Constantine. If he could pull off the accent.

Tilda Swinton - oooh, yes indeed. Or Alexander Siddig - love him!


SailAweigh - Jul 15, 2008 4:28:05 am PDT #3641 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

My vote for the Eleventh Doctor would be Chiwetel Ejiofor. Playing Lola from Kinky Boots.


Vonnie K - Jul 15, 2008 4:36:57 am PDT #3642 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I keep hearing about Robert Carlyle rumour. Carlyle is a fine actor, but I think he's too much of a David Tennant type -- small and intense and wiry. I'd welcome some out-there choices. An older Doctor maybe? (Someone on my Flist mentioned Bill Nighy, and I think he'd be a riot.) A female Doctor or an African-Brit would be awesome, but I can't really see BBC going there.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 15, 2008 4:40:39 am PDT #3643 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Bwah! I did offer him as a candidate in another discussion, but figured on a more conservative wardrobe. (He'd look great in a gray suit and bowtie, wouldn't he?)

And, following on from the Romana discussion, is it canon that male TimeLords regenerate as male, and female as female...?

That's the only way it's happened on the show as opposed to spoofs. But we've seen Romana briefly regenerate into an obviously unearthly humanoid, and Nine's discussion of the topic implied that completely inhuman regenerations were possible. If anything prevents genderswitch, I'd imagine it's the self-image of the Time Lord in question rather than any limitation of the process itself.