Gunn: The final score can't be rigged. I don't care how many players you grease, that last shot always comes up a question mark. But here's the thing. You never know when you're taking it. It could be when you're duking it out with the Legion of Doom, or just crossing the street deciding where to have brunch. So you just treat it like it was up to you—the world in balance—'cause you never know when it is.

'Underneath'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Fay - Jul 14, 2008 7:42:32 pm PDT #3631 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

You know, this is surprising even me, but I think I prefer the idea of Jack trying to pull Rachel Weiss!Doctor. I think that the genderfuck thing would bring a fabulous new spin to the Jack/Doctor thing. Hmm. And she's very versatile - I could see her being charmingly boffiny, but also badass and competent. Hmm.

However, I could happily spend the rest of the day thinking up Captain Jack/Random Hot Person scenarios...

Ooooh! Jack Davenport! (Yes, my train of thought was fairly simple there...)

Or Tom Hollander! Oh, he's adorable - he'd make a lovely Doctor!


Vortex - Jul 14, 2008 7:51:29 pm PDT #3632 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

First female doctor -- Judi Dench


Trudy Booth - Jul 14, 2008 10:02:27 pm PDT #3633 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

...I suppose David Bowie is totally out of the question

David Bowie is NEVER out of the question


Fay - Jul 15, 2008 12:38:47 am PDT #3634 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Man, Dame Judy would be fabulous.


Fiona - Jul 15, 2008 12:42:13 am PDT #3635 of 30001

RTD (and I know he's bowing out, but still) is on record as saying he thinks it would be a mistake to make the Doctor female. Actually, I tend to agree with him on that. Rachel Weisz as Romana though, no question.

And, following on from the Romana discussion, is it canon that male TimeLords regenerate as male, and female as female...?


Tom Scola - Jul 15, 2008 1:29:52 am PDT #3636 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

In the past, when the BBC were casting a new Doctor, they would sometimes drop hints that they were considering a woman for the role. But it was mostly a way of generating publicity; they were never really serious about it.


Anne W. - Jul 15, 2008 1:37:27 am PDT #3637 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I'm not ready for a new Doctor quite yet, but probably will be after one more season.

Rachel Weisz as Romana though

That would be fabulous. Now you've got my brain spinning off onto my wish-list for Romana casting.

As for the Eleventh Doctor, I would love to see any of the following: Idris Elba, Damian Lewis, Alexander Siddig, Rufus Sewell (Edit: Tilda Swinton would be fabulous as well)


Theodosia - Jul 15, 2008 1:41:19 am PDT #3638 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

As long as we're casting fantasy Doctors, how about Callum Keith Rennie? Who can play charming and quirky as easily as serious or haunted?


Jessica - Jul 15, 2008 3:03:15 am PDT #3639 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I feel like if they were going to make the Doctor female, they should have done it with Nine, right at the start of rebooting the franchise. Doing it with Eleven (or Twelve) would feel very much like a stunt.

Edit: Tilda Swinton would be fabulous as well

Oh wow. Forget everything I said above, I want THIS.


Fay - Jul 15, 2008 4:00:44 am PDT #3640 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Callum Keith Rennie? See, I think that if he were to play an iconic British character, he should be John Constantine. If he could pull off the accent.

Tilda Swinton - oooh, yes indeed. Or Alexander Siddig - love him!