Dawn: I thought you were adequate. Giles: And the accolades keep pouring in. I'd best take my leave before my head swells any larger. Good night.

'First Date'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


tiggy - Jul 14, 2008 11:41:30 am PDT #3613 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

if i were to watch specific old school Who, what would y'all recommend? because i have to admit that this conversation is piqueing my interest.


DebetEsse - Jul 14, 2008 11:52:15 am PDT #3614 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

There was a list, although it's a bit long, that someone put together of Essential Stories for each Doctor The other Doctors' lists are under Movie and Television Reviews


lisah - Jul 14, 2008 11:55:59 am PDT #3615 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

This may be naive or whatever but this speculation that there has to be an 11th Dr. Who is just speculation, right? It's not spoiler?

I mean that there has to be one NOW as opposed to some vague point in the future.


amych - Jul 14, 2008 12:06:04 pm PDT #3616 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Not a spoiler, lisah. It hasn't been announced yet one way or the other, so the UK press has been going apeshit with the speculation about every actor under the sun.


lisah - Jul 14, 2008 12:10:29 pm PDT #3617 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

It hasn't been announced yet one way or the other, so the UK press has been going apeshit with the speculation about every actor under the sun.

Okay, I thought maybe there was something at the end of the last episode that hasn't run here yet that made it clear that there has to be a new doctor.


victor infante - Jul 14, 2008 12:33:33 pm PDT #3618 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Okay, I thought maybe there was something at the end of the last episode that hasn't run here yet that made it clear that there has to be a new doctor.

Nah, we're all speculating right now. If the need for a new Doctor is imminent, the well-spoiled have not explicitly stated so. Mostly, no one's entirely sure how long DT is staying with the show past this season, assuming he's not already regenerating at the end of it.


lisah - Jul 14, 2008 12:36:13 pm PDT #3619 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Mostly, no one's entirely sure how long DT is staying with the show past this season, assuming he's not already regenerating at the end of it.

Was the last ep that everyone has talked so much about (in blessed white font) not the season finale? wow


victor infante - Jul 14, 2008 12:43:25 pm PDT #3620 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Was the last ep that everyone has talked so much about (in blessed white font) not the season finale? wow

Oh no. That was the season finale. But I, personally, have no idea what happens. Because while I'm lightly spoiled, I'm not that spoiled.


Juliebird - Jul 14, 2008 3:00:49 pm PDT #3621 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

rewatching the new Who, on the second ep, End of the World and I'm realizing that perhaps part of why Nine chooses to show Rose the death of Earth is so that she can feel a little bit of what he feels over the death of Gallifrey. Not even close, but perhaps closer than she otherwise would have been able to understand.

and he's totally been just regenerated prior to Rose. No question. But I wonder if RTD had the Time War in mind for that pilot, because there's simply no darkness there at all. No hints of "I'm being jaunty and smiley because I hold within me a deep dark angsty secret". No seething rage. Although he IS rude and short-tempered in that pilot.

Also, Chris Eccleston! (I've been trying for months to hunt down the first season since my DVDs are out of state) *hugs*


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 14, 2008 3:37:19 pm PDT #3622 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

They used to use something called the Transduction Barrier to explain why the doctor didn't cross his own timeline (much) or encounter other Time Lords earlier in their subjective timelines than their last meeting. It was apparently a universe-wide effect maintained by the Time Lords, and only occasionally violated at great risk to the cosmos. I assume it is "still" in operation for all the former Time Lords whenever/wherever they might have journeyed, though perhaps the Doctor is now freer to cross his own recent past or perhaps visit a post-flight Master prior to their last encounter.