Mal: Cut it out. Job's not done until we're back on Serenity. Zoe: Sorry, sir. Didn't mean to enjoy the moment.

'Ariel'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


lisah - Jul 14, 2008 12:36:13 pm PDT #3619 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

Mostly, no one's entirely sure how long DT is staying with the show past this season, assuming he's not already regenerating at the end of it.

Was the last ep that everyone has talked so much about (in blessed white font) not the season finale? wow


victor infante - Jul 14, 2008 12:43:25 pm PDT #3620 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Was the last ep that everyone has talked so much about (in blessed white font) not the season finale? wow

Oh no. That was the season finale. But I, personally, have no idea what happens. Because while I'm lightly spoiled, I'm not that spoiled.


Juliebird - Jul 14, 2008 3:00:49 pm PDT #3621 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

rewatching the new Who, on the second ep, End of the World and I'm realizing that perhaps part of why Nine chooses to show Rose the death of Earth is so that she can feel a little bit of what he feels over the death of Gallifrey. Not even close, but perhaps closer than she otherwise would have been able to understand.

and he's totally been just regenerated prior to Rose. No question. But I wonder if RTD had the Time War in mind for that pilot, because there's simply no darkness there at all. No hints of "I'm being jaunty and smiley because I hold within me a deep dark angsty secret". No seething rage. Although he IS rude and short-tempered in that pilot.

Also, Chris Eccleston! (I've been trying for months to hunt down the first season since my DVDs are out of state) *hugs*


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 14, 2008 3:37:19 pm PDT #3622 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

They used to use something called the Transduction Barrier to explain why the doctor didn't cross his own timeline (much) or encounter other Time Lords earlier in their subjective timelines than their last meeting. It was apparently a universe-wide effect maintained by the Time Lords, and only occasionally violated at great risk to the cosmos. I assume it is "still" in operation for all the former Time Lords whenever/wherever they might have journeyed, though perhaps the Doctor is now freer to cross his own recent past or perhaps visit a post-flight Master prior to their last encounter.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 14, 2008 3:38:27 pm PDT #3623 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Unlikely that he'd do it, though. He left "Hamish Macbeth" because he was becoming too much of a movie star.

Well, except for that interview where he said he wouldn't rule it out...

I'd be a bit boggled - I thought Eccleston was the edgiest actor I'd see as the Doctor, but Carlyle would be seriously intense.


Juliebird - Jul 14, 2008 4:12:34 pm PDT #3624 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I don't know if this means anything so far into the series, but "Bad Wolf" was mentioned in the second ep of season 1, and the darkness was mentioned in the third ep!


DCJensen - Jul 14, 2008 5:58:10 pm PDT #3625 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

There was a lot of talk of the Time Wars before RTD rebooted the franchise.

I distinctly remembered it (heh), so I sought out this [link] to the wiki.

I guess it's best called "the last great Time War."

Or at least the most recent, chronologically speaking.


Fay - Jul 14, 2008 6:13:54 pm PDT #3626 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Lisah, everyone already said it - but it was my question, and I've not seen any of Season 4. I'm a bit spoiled, granted, but that's not why I asked the question. It was just an idle thought.

Someone on LJ a few years ago was very smitten with the notion of Rachel Weiss as The Doctor, and I confess this did rather charm me to death. Adrian Lester, Robert Carlisle and the lickable Damian Lewis - all lovely notions, though!


DCJensen - Jul 14, 2008 6:29:29 pm PDT #3627 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

If you are going to nominate Rachel Weisz, I'm going to nominate Brendon Frazier.


Fay - Jul 14, 2008 6:55:40 pm PDT #3628 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Well, he's a lot of fun to watch, and I'm thoroughly looking forward to watching The Mummy, but, you know, (North) AMERICAN!!!!!

Which is to say: no. No no no no.

(...yes, I know this is hypocritical, since I'm always gleeful about Brits cropping up as Americans on American shows. I'm good with the hypocrisy. This is The Doctor, damn it! And he's a quintessentially BRITISH alien.)

That aside - I think Fraser's too big, strapping and pretty - too Leading Man. Too Captain Jack Harkness, in fact.

John Hannah, on the other hand...Or Omid Djalili...

...I suppose David Bowie is totally out of the question.