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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Fay - Jul 13, 2008 4:52:36 am PDT #3550 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Aw, yeah, I do love the video diary. Although it makes me a little sad that Ten doesn't speak with Tennant's real accent. (After all, Sylvester McCoy didn't put on an RP accent, did he? I can't recall, but I'm fairly sure he was himself.)

Loved Nine to pieces - I don't know whether the full impact of him being a Northern, blue-collar version of The Doctor, but it made me a very happy bunny. "Lots of planets have a North."

"My" Doctor, however, remains Tom Baker. Even though I only remember him foggily, he was so iconic, and he was The Doctor for such a lot of my childhood - floppy scarf, K9 and all. I was a bit dubious about Five, but he was okay. I liked Colin Baker's Six (felt bad for the guy - they gave him The Stupidest Costume in the history of ever, and clearly they didn't have much confidence in the show by that point) but couldn't get past the fact that Sylvester McCoy had been on kids' TV shows ( Jigsaw, iirc.) Mind you, I liked Ace.

Eight doesn't count.

t / Stuart Jones

Fay, come to the SPN thread! We would love to hear if you have any thoughts!!

You know, I tried to do exactly that this morning, and wrote a whole long thing...and the computer ate it.

I was so sad I hadn't the heart to write it out again, but I'll have another crack now.


DCJensen - Jul 13, 2008 6:16:36 am PDT #3551 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

The Stupidest Costume in the history of ever, and clearly they didn't have much confidence in the show by that point)

In retrospect I give Colin baker more credit than I used to, as I have found out that they intentionally wanted the character to be annoying. WTF?

I think the BBC decided to make it even more of a children-only show with Colin and Sylvester and it only occasionally went beyond that.

I remember losing interest during McCoy's run.

I have the 1996 TV movie, and there are some good points to it. It's darker tone and Sylvester McCoy getting shot in a drive-by to start.

And it had a bit of romance between the doctor and The Doctor.

I get the impression that when Nine comes on our screen in Rose, he has only just regenerated. (He checks out his face in one of Rose's mirrors.)


Anne W. - Jul 13, 2008 6:38:08 am PDT #3552 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I get the impression that when Nine comes on our screen in Rose, he has only just regenerated. (He checks out his face in one of Rose's mirrors.)

Same. And as for all the appeareances of Nine in what's-his-name's conspiracy files, I've always assumed that after his first attempt to get Rose to go with him, the Doctor had a few lonely adventures through Earth's history before going back to remind her that the TARDIS travels in time as well.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2008 6:44:17 am PDT #3553 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's just reminded me that I recently had a dream where I was hanging out with Tom Baker which made me the coolest chick on the block, which regardless of how I feel about Nine or Ten still feels kinda true. Prompted no doubt by the TB Remington Steele ep I'd just watched.


Vortex - Jul 13, 2008 8:45:05 am PDT #3554 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Tom Baker was on Remington Steele? TOLD you he was my Doctor!


DCJensen - Jul 13, 2008 9:24:05 am PDT #3555 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Spoiler for 4x13 ahead:

Speaking of which, I'm hoping the lack of "preview" for the christmas episode at the end of 4x13 ep means that the next time we see him, it is going to be much later in the Doctor's timeline. Leaving a gap for future filling-in seems like a good idea.


Juliebird - Jul 13, 2008 9:35:51 am PDT #3556 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Alas, Daniel, I saw a promo for the Christmas Special after 4x13, but that doesn't mean that there couldn't be long gap between when the Doctor leave Wilf and when he arrives back for Christmas.

I'm thinking that the only way to get Ten out of his intense emo funk is to bring back Jenny. Not as a companion, but as a recurring character that he keeps running into, hanging out with, but of course she'll be so impetuous and independent and free-spirited that she'll be off on another lark before you know it.


tiggy - Jul 13, 2008 10:01:57 am PDT #3557 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

[link] my new favorite fanvid.


Connie Neil - Jul 13, 2008 12:34:33 pm PDT #3558 of 30001
brillig

Nine *is* the Doctor, in my mind. Nine is the man I'd follow to the end of the universe and back, the man I'd trust absolutely with my life. He's *my* Doctor.

Yup, in absence of Tom Baker. Nine feels more tragic to me, more grieving for his lost kindred. Ten has too much arrogance for my taste. He enjoys his power, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but Nine felt the weight of the power more and had a better sense of consequences.

edit: Still and all, nobody rocks like Ace.


Tom Scola - Jul 13, 2008 12:46:16 pm PDT #3559 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

nobody rocks like Ace.

Except Leela.