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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Nora Deirdre - Jul 08, 2008 10:33:39 am PDT #3413 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I mourned the loss of Nine- he was my Doctor - but also accepted Ten pretty quickly.

I'd have to say that seasons 1 and 4 are my favorites; the quality of the writing/plotting/execution is stronger in this last season, but both seasons have a deeply engaging emotional arc that makes me forgive any and all flaws.

Season 2 was... OK. My favorite was School Reunion, of course, and there was some interesting parallel universe stuff. I enjoyed it at the time, but in comparison with the other seasons, it pales.

Season 3- I'd add The Sound of Drums to the end of that wonderful Human Nature-Family of Blood-Blink-Utopia stretch that was pointed out upthread. I LOVED The Sound of Drums. I recently re-watched and once again had so much curiosity about Lucy. Also, John Simm. But, um... Daleks in Manhattan? Really? No.

Season 4- in my opinion strong from start to finish. The actors carried through beautifully. How else could I have loved a silly mess like The Unicorn and the Wasp? I laughed my ASS off, despite the giant wasp ("I mean a wasp. That's GIANT!"). Stupid monster and silly history set-up still worked for me in The Fires of Pompeii as well.

I am so in love with season 4 I want to marry it and have its babies. But I still want to keep season 1 on the side.

EDIT: D'oh! Stupid grammar error! You think it'll never happen to YOU...


sumi - Jul 08, 2008 10:45:20 am PDT #3414 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

I'm really enjoying season 4 so far. Love, love, love season 1. Liked bits and pieces of season 2. Thought season 3 had lots of excellent stuff - although, because I haven't gotten around to buying the dvds - haven't seen it in uncut splendor. (I bought season 1, I fully intend to buy season 3 and 4 eventually - when I can afford it but season 2 would have to be on a really good sale before I picked it up.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 08, 2008 11:01:53 am PDT #3415 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Despite being fonder of Tennant, I think Eccleston was the better Doctor overall. But I think "School Reunion" required someone who had a deep and genuine fondness for the show's history in a way Eccleston wouldn't have been able to deliver.

I can also buy Ten as capable of genocide or icily consigning individuals to their just desserts as he did at the end of "The Christmas Invasion" and "Family of Blood." If Eccleston had tried that it would have rung false in light of his prior performances as Nine.


Polter-Cow - Jul 08, 2008 11:22:27 am PDT #3416 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

("I mean a wasp. That's GIANT!")

HOW IS HARVEY WALLBANGER ONE WORD?!


Nora Deirdre - Jul 08, 2008 11:30:21 am PDT #3417 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

HOW IS HARVEY WALLBANGER ONE WORD?!

I wanna run home right now and re-watch!


Laura - Jul 08, 2008 11:53:37 am PDT #3418 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

I mourned the loss of Nine- he was my Doctor - but also accepted Ten pretty quickly.

I expected to hate DT and resisted, but it was, as they say, futile. I kinda love that the show made me love both of them.

EDIT: D'oh! Stupid grammar error! You think it'll never happen to YOU...

Hee. Truer words...


SailAweigh - Jul 08, 2008 4:03:55 pm PDT #3419 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Juliebird, you might enjoy this, it's a virtual season 5 by the same person who wrote the virtual season 4 I linked to a little while ago.

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Juliebird - Jul 08, 2008 4:54:39 pm PDT #3420 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Believe you me, Sail, the second I finished that fic (epic! Awesome! Epicly Awesome! Thanks for linky!) I began stalking and searching and looking for more and set a tracker on the alternate season five when I first read of the intent for it. Read the first ep, waiting for more!


Frankenbuddha - Jul 08, 2008 5:13:07 pm PDT #3421 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I can also buy Ten as capable of genocide or icily consigning individuals to their just desserts as he did at the end of "The Christmas Invasion" and "Family of Blood." If Eccleston had tried that it would have rung false in light of his prior performances as Nine.

I think if Nine was the one responsible for the destruction of both the Time Lords and the Daleks (ahem), or the first incarnation afterwards, he was so despondent with that kind of destruction he was incapable of such behavior (as much as he may have wanted when it came to Daleks) until The Doctor Dances. I suspect he would have kept that attitude had Nine continued, but Ten has the luxury of the memories of "everbody lives!" to draw on, and the distance of a new incarnation, so he's a bit more callous about those things.


Polter-Cow - Jul 08, 2008 5:54:33 pm PDT #3422 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm not sure I understand your point, Frank. How would experiencing the ebullience of "Everybody lives!" make him more likely to engage in genocide or dole out evil punishments?