I gave her everything... jewels, beautiful dresses -- with beautiful girls in them.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


tiggy - Jul 08, 2008 10:00:05 am PDT #3410 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Does it count if I never intended on watching the show?

not if you're still reading our reactions to the episodes!

I may eventually get to the same point where I like Tennant better.

I was devastated when CE left. i'd almost decided i was done watching, but people on my flist convinced me DT was worth giving a shot. then i watched Casanova before season two premiered and this and this is what eventually happened. i'm totally DT's bitch.

I will say at this point in the series I am getting my hate on for Mickey. I'm tired of listening to him whine about being the tin dog. Hopefully this view of him changes too.

i'll just say...yes.


Polter-Cow - Jul 08, 2008 10:03:55 am PDT #3411 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I will say at this point in the series I am getting my hate on for Mickey. I'm tired of listening to him whine about being the tin dog.

Ha! I think that's where I started to like him. But he gets much better in the next few episodes.


SailAweigh - Jul 08, 2008 10:07:40 am PDT #3412 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Huh. I was a DT fangurl from the get-go. I never warmed to Eccleston and literally jumped for joy when DT took over. DT was what convinced me to stick with DW, otherwise, I was going to let it go. I was unconvinced that Who was a 'verse I could feel comfy in. Then Ten! Hook, line and sinker. I've even started ordering DVDs of the classic Who episodes.


Nora Deirdre - Jul 08, 2008 10:33:39 am PDT #3413 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I mourned the loss of Nine- he was my Doctor - but also accepted Ten pretty quickly.

I'd have to say that seasons 1 and 4 are my favorites; the quality of the writing/plotting/execution is stronger in this last season, but both seasons have a deeply engaging emotional arc that makes me forgive any and all flaws.

Season 2 was... OK. My favorite was School Reunion, of course, and there was some interesting parallel universe stuff. I enjoyed it at the time, but in comparison with the other seasons, it pales.

Season 3- I'd add The Sound of Drums to the end of that wonderful Human Nature-Family of Blood-Blink-Utopia stretch that was pointed out upthread. I LOVED The Sound of Drums. I recently re-watched and once again had so much curiosity about Lucy. Also, John Simm. But, um... Daleks in Manhattan? Really? No.

Season 4- in my opinion strong from start to finish. The actors carried through beautifully. How else could I have loved a silly mess like The Unicorn and the Wasp? I laughed my ASS off, despite the giant wasp ("I mean a wasp. That's GIANT!"). Stupid monster and silly history set-up still worked for me in The Fires of Pompeii as well.

I am so in love with season 4 I want to marry it and have its babies. But I still want to keep season 1 on the side.

EDIT: D'oh! Stupid grammar error! You think it'll never happen to YOU...


sumi - Jul 08, 2008 10:45:20 am PDT #3414 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

I'm really enjoying season 4 so far. Love, love, love season 1. Liked bits and pieces of season 2. Thought season 3 had lots of excellent stuff - although, because I haven't gotten around to buying the dvds - haven't seen it in uncut splendor. (I bought season 1, I fully intend to buy season 3 and 4 eventually - when I can afford it but season 2 would have to be on a really good sale before I picked it up.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 08, 2008 11:01:53 am PDT #3415 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Despite being fonder of Tennant, I think Eccleston was the better Doctor overall. But I think "School Reunion" required someone who had a deep and genuine fondness for the show's history in a way Eccleston wouldn't have been able to deliver.

I can also buy Ten as capable of genocide or icily consigning individuals to their just desserts as he did at the end of "The Christmas Invasion" and "Family of Blood." If Eccleston had tried that it would have rung false in light of his prior performances as Nine.


Polter-Cow - Jul 08, 2008 11:22:27 am PDT #3416 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

("I mean a wasp. That's GIANT!")

HOW IS HARVEY WALLBANGER ONE WORD?!


Nora Deirdre - Jul 08, 2008 11:30:21 am PDT #3417 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

HOW IS HARVEY WALLBANGER ONE WORD?!

I wanna run home right now and re-watch!


Laura - Jul 08, 2008 11:53:37 am PDT #3418 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

I mourned the loss of Nine- he was my Doctor - but also accepted Ten pretty quickly.

I expected to hate DT and resisted, but it was, as they say, futile. I kinda love that the show made me love both of them.

EDIT: D'oh! Stupid grammar error! You think it'll never happen to YOU...

Hee. Truer words...


SailAweigh - Jul 08, 2008 4:03:55 pm PDT #3419 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Juliebird, you might enjoy this, it's a virtual season 5 by the same person who wrote the virtual season 4 I linked to a little while ago.

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