okay, i have a question about 4x13 that is possibly completely obvious. why exactly did Rose have to be returned to the parallel world? enlighten me, please. is it only because Ten was banishing his other self and he needed someone to watch over him and the best person for the job was Rose?

I mean, i can meta this stuff until i'm blue in the face, but WHHHHHHHHHHY???

oh! and i thought of another thing while watching. remember way back in the ep with the Ood and the Doctor let Donna hear their cries/song and she couldn't take it and asked for him to make it stop? yeah. that was a bit of foreshadowing of her not being able to handle what happens in a Time Lord's head.

I was thinking the same thing, tiggy, about Rose being returned to the parallel universe. Except that maybe it's easier to return Rose and her mum than to supplant Dad and the new baby, and, erm, the Doctor knew he couldn't reasonably co-exist in a universe with a copy of himself, and what best way to smooth over the idea of sticking his other self in a parrallel than to leave him with Rose, also in that parallel? The Doctor's issues with commitment to such an ephemeral being came into play as well? The Doctor has a sad comfort zone with being lonely that he'd choose that familiarity over being with the object of his angst (and risk being responsible for getting her hurt/killed/separated from her family)?

Really, at some point I want the Doctor to get over himself and accept that people die and live with that fact. Next regeneration I want to see a callous Doctor, damnit. I want to see Casino Royale Doctor.

that's pretty much all i'm coming up with, Julie, and honestly? that blows. i hate that the Doctor keeps making these choices for the people that love him. just because they're "stupid humans" doesn't mean they don't know what's best for them. argh!

with that being said, i loved the finale. i'm still on a bit of an emotional rollercoaster from it.

It struck me that human-Doctor is a metacrisis, too. I don't think The Doctor's mean enough to put him and Rose together if he's got, like, half an hour.

I'm all traumatized and stuff. That's the saddest happy ending I've ever seen.

Who 4x13:

Andi and I were alternately Squeeing at the possibility that Donna's ring was The Master's and Doctor 10.1 would realize it, and then later that maybe Donna would turn out to be The Master when she ended up all talking DoctorDonna.

tiggy, nice catch on the Ood foreshadowing. As Juliebird has noticed, this whole season has been filled to the brim with foreshadowing. I love that about this show.

Dear RTD:

Re: DW4.13

Thanks for the closure on the Doctor/Rose ship. Have you been mainlining the old Fantasy Island? Not that I blame you, cuz Ricardo Montalban... Rawr. But still, you realize you are practically forcing us to write tawdry hurt/comfort sexual healing fic, here, don't you? I can't see any form of it that won't end in very sleezy, gritty, smut.

Love, Me

P.S. Jack giving Sarah Jane a nice roll in the hay is my new happy place.

agreed, Trudy.

heh. just thought of something else to bring the season full circle. this time i'm thinking Partners in Crime when the Doctor tells Donna he just wants "a mate" and she tell him, "you're not mating with me, sunshine!". well...they kinda did to make faux!Ten.

DW 4x13

Tiggy,

hee!

My Who production team friend told me they refer to this episode as "skinny cute boys in suits".

I loved this episode. I think the fact it pissed so many people off (what happened to Donna, the Doctor being an emotional dick) means it worked really well.

I'm a bit sad because my friend no longer has a job now, as they've closed down production and whatnot. But, well, Rose - love you.