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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Juliebird - Jun 20, 2008 4:31:12 pm PDT #3089 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

thank god you did.

I think it was the sex scene that did it for me. It was completely gratutitous and I was thinking "this is the main character that I'm rooting for?!" as he practically raped her.

Also, I had just watched Caroline Dhavernas in Heart: The Marilyn Bell Story and I think I've had my fill of the-little-amateur-that-could sports movies for the moment.


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2008 4:39:54 pm PDT #3090 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think it was rape, Julie--I think it was just really bad sex. And I didn't need to see my best friend have bad sex with his actual GF. The meta, it burnt.

Took me years to watch it--little amateur that could aversion was very hard to get past.


Juliebird - Jun 20, 2008 4:47:37 pm PDT #3091 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Not technically, but the Stop! Stop! STOP! in the middle of it was a bit hard to watch, in terms of simply watching it, and "this is the horse I bet on", and the conversation that followed, that Yes, Everything is a Race, was ridonkulous (pardon me for fucking you too fast).

And I hope that my imagining how traumatic watching a friend, let alone a best friend, fake-get-it-on with a real live girlfriend, remains in the imagination. Not that I'm imagining that scenario, like, ever.

Finished the first ep of Fear Itself and it wasn't all that fearful. I didn't feel my primal fears tapped into, and was rather disappointed to find out it was vampires. I mean, not that bad an ep, but not scary in the least. Still not clear why they staked the first guy, though. He wasn't bitten. Red-herring plothole?


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2008 4:58:43 pm PDT #3092 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

watching a friend, let alone a best friend, fake-get-it-on with a real live girlfriend

That's a price I paid for waiting so long to see it. If I'd seen it right away, it'd just have been foreshadowing.


Juliebird - Jun 20, 2008 5:01:07 pm PDT #3093 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

it'd just have been foreshadowing.

heh.


Fay - Jun 20, 2008 10:56:21 pm PDT #3094 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

...so Fear Itself is a sort of Twilight Zone thing? Is it? Each episode being a self-contained horror story unrelated to the other episodes? That's the impression I'm getting from imdb. (I eventually had to go Google, because every time anyone mentions it the ONLY thing that comes to mind is that tiny wee demon getting stomped.)


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2008 11:06:23 pm PDT #3095 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Pretty much. Unrelated horror stories.

Have they all ended badly so far? That's not a requirement of the genre, is it? Everyone buys it?


Juliebird - Jun 21, 2008 5:27:01 am PDT #3096 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

horrendous coincidence of the baddie being in the house

They'd probably establish that the two were friends and that both were f***ed up in the same way with the same tendencies, and that maybe ?Dennis? was an apprentice.

All in all, not a bad ep, I liked the other actor as well, but it was a treat seeing Colin be bad.

I'm still confused, though, because while the two eps I've seen have been somewhat horrific at the end, it's not scary. The title of the show makes me think of something that would have me jumping at shadows and hugging my pillow right from the teaser. Something that dealt with more primal issues.

Now I've made myself curious about the distinctions between scared/scary/horror/horrified/grisly/suspense/thriller and where/how fear comes into play with each of those.


Theodosia - Jun 21, 2008 5:37:18 am PDT #3097 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Loved the Who episode last night -- good characters, amazing sets/CGI. Also good to see the Doctor knocked awry by something he doesn't know....


sumi - Jun 21, 2008 6:52:43 am PDT #3098 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

From a TWOPPer (in reference to "Silence in the Library":

I didn't think 2001 at that moment. I did think "Some say he's got four shadows. Others that there's nothing but an empty skull beneath his helmet. They whisper he can strip a man to the bone in a second flat and that he's what's in the Dark. What's always in the Dark.

All we know is that he's called... the Stig!"

Hee.