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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Juliebird - Jun 20, 2008 5:01:07 pm PDT #3093 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

it'd just have been foreshadowing.

heh.


Fay - Jun 20, 2008 10:56:21 pm PDT #3094 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

...so Fear Itself is a sort of Twilight Zone thing? Is it? Each episode being a self-contained horror story unrelated to the other episodes? That's the impression I'm getting from imdb. (I eventually had to go Google, because every time anyone mentions it the ONLY thing that comes to mind is that tiny wee demon getting stomped.)


§ ita § - Jun 20, 2008 11:06:23 pm PDT #3095 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Pretty much. Unrelated horror stories.

Have they all ended badly so far? That's not a requirement of the genre, is it? Everyone buys it?


Juliebird - Jun 21, 2008 5:27:01 am PDT #3096 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

horrendous coincidence of the baddie being in the house

They'd probably establish that the two were friends and that both were f***ed up in the same way with the same tendencies, and that maybe ?Dennis? was an apprentice.

All in all, not a bad ep, I liked the other actor as well, but it was a treat seeing Colin be bad.

I'm still confused, though, because while the two eps I've seen have been somewhat horrific at the end, it's not scary. The title of the show makes me think of something that would have me jumping at shadows and hugging my pillow right from the teaser. Something that dealt with more primal issues.

Now I've made myself curious about the distinctions between scared/scary/horror/horrified/grisly/suspense/thriller and where/how fear comes into play with each of those.


Theodosia - Jun 21, 2008 5:37:18 am PDT #3097 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Loved the Who episode last night -- good characters, amazing sets/CGI. Also good to see the Doctor knocked awry by something he doesn't know....


sumi - Jun 21, 2008 6:52:43 am PDT #3098 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

From a TWOPPer (in reference to "Silence in the Library":

I didn't think 2001 at that moment. I did think "Some say he's got four shadows. Others that there's nothing but an empty skull beneath his helmet. They whisper he can strip a man to the bone in a second flat and that he's what's in the Dark. What's always in the Dark.

All we know is that he's called... the Stig!"

Hee.


Anne W. - Jun 21, 2008 2:11:16 pm PDT #3099 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

New Who 4.11 OMGWTFBADWOLF!!! That was absolutely brilliant. Also, Donna's grandfather simply broke my heart in the scene where the Italian (?) family was being taken away. If anyone knows of any (good) fic where the Doctor takes him for a trip to another planet, please let me know.


Juliebird - Jun 21, 2008 2:43:45 pm PDT #3100 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Wah! my usual source for DW-UK must be on vacation, I can usually watch it Friday night, or Saturday morning. If anyone could whisper in my ear where else I might find it, I'll make cucumber finger sandwiches and lavender lemonade . . . and dine on it in your honor.


Fiona - Jun 22, 2008 2:57:38 am PDT #3101 of 30001

Juliebird: Friday night, really? It only airs in the UK on Saturday evening. Whereabouts are you?

Who 4.11: ha! And I thought the two words would be "Rose Tyler". Bad wolf is back !

I liked the episode a lot. At first it bothered me that Harold Saxon didn't show up, but of course without the Doctor he would never have got back from the end of the universe. They only did the modern threats coming true, though; strictly speaking the earth should have been Pyrovile, or Carrionite, or something else. But that would have got way too confusing.

I also liked the way they killed everybody off (except Rose). And it looks as though they'll all be back next week, including Gwen and Ianto, who I hadn't been spoiled for, which is great .

BTW, any ideas as to who the Dalek-woman in the trailer is? Elizabeth I? Or is it Davros? I need to have another look, and see if it could be who I think it is... .


Juliebird - Jun 22, 2008 3:50:21 am PDT #3102 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'm in New Jersey.

Maybe I misremembered, because I don't remember watching it after BSG. Must of been Saturday night, late. I think not having BSG on threw me off a day.

Anyhoo, got it now!