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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Vortex - Jan 31, 2016 9:58:54 am PST #29138 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Saw LOT, would have been happy if Shayera had died as well. She is not a good actress.


Steph L. - Jan 31, 2016 10:01:00 am PST #29139 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Saw LOT, would have been happy if Shayera had died as well. She is not a good actress.

I like her better than Hawkbro. They need to not reincarnate him for a long time.


-t - Jan 31, 2016 10:42:48 am PST #29140 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

But time travel, can't they just go find the next one? I really don't understand how time travel works on this show. In this universe. And Vandal Savage gaining power through killing them over and over again, but they keep getting reincarnated with all their powers (latent but not gone, it seems) doesn't make sense to me.

And there being a "Mr. Rory" who is not Arthur Darville is confusing.

However, now that I have come to the conclusion that Sarah is not taking this whole thing seriously at all I am in for just enjoying her antics.

And re: Tep's earlier point about Ray having impact on the timeline - did he ever officially come back to life? I forget how all that got resolved.

Nothing makes any sense on The Flash anymore, but I guess Thole being wiped from the timeline not catching up with him makes as much sense as the disappearing and reappearing wedding ring.

Arrow: OMG Waller!?! Loved the Oracle line and "we've both grown". That was a little too much harshing on Goth!Felicity's style.

I kinda feel like I missed something in between the first X-files and the second, but I'm kinda just ignoring most of the first one anyway so I won't worry about that. Didn't entirely love the second one, but the imaginary flashbacks were terrific and heart-breaking. Sounds like the next one will be right up my alley, so yay for that!

I can't tell where Lucifer is heading - could be exactly my cup of tea, could be just super frustratingly not. The actress who used to be on H50, I don't care for her delivery, like, ever, but I like the way the character is written enough to maybe overlook that.

Grimm, I have totally lost track of Wesen politics. There's the Wesen Council (or there used to be) and the Royals and the Resistance and now the Black Claw and I have no idea what any of them stand for or believe in. And with GrimmMom dead, who has whatshernames first precious baby that everybody wanted control of?


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 31, 2016 11:32:58 am PST #29141 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Meisner, he flew off with her in the helicopter the King did a bellyflop out of.


Vortex - Jan 31, 2016 12:22:25 pm PST #29142 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I like her better than Hawkbro. They need to not reincarnate him for a long time.

Yes, she's better than Hawkbrow, but that's not saying much.


-t - Jan 31, 2016 1:06:35 pm PST #29143 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Thanks, Matt. That rings a bell. And Meisner is Resistance? I find that guy super hard to focus on - I keep hearing his name as Eisner and start thinking about whether that's meant to be a reference, besides trying to figure out if I recognize the actor from somewhere else (I don't think I do, I think he just reminds me of Garrett Dillahunt from some angles)


Kalshane - Jan 31, 2016 5:07:10 pm PST #29144 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Count me as another who shed no tears at Hawkbro's passing.

If this was a brand new show, with no connection at all to the Arrowverse, I don't know if I'd stick with it. Even with that connection, I'm wavering.


Steph L. - Jan 31, 2016 5:10:30 pm PST #29145 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Even with that connection, I'm wavering.

I'm not super attached to it. Don't get me wrong; I *love* Captain Cold beyond the telling of it. He is the goddamn BEST. And I also think that Heat Wave is a lot better on Legends than he was on The Flash.

But Rip Hunter is WAY too Captain Exposition for me, and the Hawks are just not good at all.


Vortex - Jan 31, 2016 5:56:16 pm PST #29146 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Don't get me wrong; I *love* Captain Cold beyond the telling of it. He is the goddamn BEST. And I also think that Heat Wave is a lot better on Legends than he was on The Flash.

Yes, they are terribly entertaining. And Sarah is a good partner for them. I don't mind Firestorm either.


SailAweigh - Jan 31, 2016 6:50:34 pm PST #29147 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

So, I mainlined the first season of iZombie this weekend and loved the hell out of it. Can anybody tell me if season 2 is as good? My daughter said she didn't think so. I want a Buffista opinion, as my daughter and I may watch the same shows, but very frequently for different reasons and have different readings of character motivation.