Let him do his thing, and then you get him out. No messing with him for laughs.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Polter-Cow - Jun 10, 2008 7:55:25 am PDT #2891 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Super sekrit response to Glam: It's always FG!


le nubian - Jun 10, 2008 8:02:21 am PDT #2892 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I think I'm over Baltar at this point also. So over him. I really want him to die.

Kathy, I just don't buy that he has indeed become a true believer. Maybe we will see more evidence to this effect - at least scenes that will convince me, but he has gone back and forth and back and forth so much that I'm just not sure where he stands.


Hayden - Jun 10, 2008 8:29:34 am PDT #2893 of 30001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I had sort of hoped Baltar would die in the last episode, but only because I like what that would have done to Roslin's conscience. I like the gadfly role Baltar's playing, and liked him proselytizing to the Centurion. It was the only moment I can recall him doing something that wasn't nakedly self-interested on the surface, although I think there's a healthy dose of self-interest in the act. I think the character is trying to convince himself that he's really a prophetic voice by preaching when virtually no one is listening.


Jessica - Jun 10, 2008 8:46:34 am PDT #2894 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I was wondering at that point if he was in the loop re: the Centurion's having self-awareness now. Because if he knows that his sermon is being heard by a sentient being, that's very different than if he thinks he's talking to a dumb hunk of metal.


Hayden - Jun 10, 2008 8:48:11 am PDT #2895 of 30001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I was wondering that, too!


Jessica - Jun 10, 2008 8:49:27 am PDT #2896 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

And it all goes back to the essential question of Baltar - is he being uber-crafty and devious, or REALLY FUCKING STUPID?

[Insert Spinal Tap reference here]


§ ita § - Jun 10, 2008 9:12:18 am PDT #2897 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm going with really fucking stupid, myself.


sumi - Jun 10, 2008 9:45:42 am PDT #2898 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Me too. He just can't stop talking and trying to make trouble - and the possible consequences (even to himself) don't seem to hit him until it's too late.


Hayden - Jun 10, 2008 9:46:49 am PDT #2899 of 30001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

For a super-genius, he seems to be incapable of forethought.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 10, 2008 9:53:44 am PDT #2900 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

For a super-genius, he seems to be incapable of forethought.

So he's Wile E. Coyote? Are the Cylons from Acme as well?