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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Kathy A - Jun 10, 2008 7:15:38 am PDT #2884 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I think Helo makes a nice flip side of the coin with Baltar. They're both in love with Cylons, but whereas Helo has been helping her assimilate herself into the human world, Baltar embraces the Cylon philosophy/religion and is trying to make over the fleet into a subset of Cylon thought.


Polter-Cow - Jun 10, 2008 7:22:12 am PDT #2885 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ooh, I never thought of it that way! Nice observation.


le nubian - Jun 10, 2008 7:39:23 am PDT #2886 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Baltar embraces the Cylon philosophy/religion

He does now, but this is a pretty recent phenomenon. I'm not sure sure Baltar knows what he believes.


Glamcookie - Jun 10, 2008 7:41:09 am PDT #2887 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I am over Baltar at this point. I was so hoping that that Cylon would snap his neck and then I was all excited when I thought Roslin was going to let him die. It's sad, really, as I loved that character at one point. I find him tiresome and annoying (not in a fun way) at this point.


Polter-Cow - Jun 10, 2008 7:46:24 am PDT #2888 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Glam, I've been a Baltar fan from the beginning, but, yeah, I'm not really enjoying him this season.


Glamcookie - Jun 10, 2008 7:47:42 am PDT #2889 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Super sekrit message to P-C: GF and I are rewatching Avatar from the beginning AIFG!


Kathy A - Jun 10, 2008 7:53:27 am PDT #2890 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I'm not sure sure Baltar knows what he believes.

I think that he is a true believer now. It might have been the "miraculous" cure of the little boy, but whatever it was, he was really trying to convert Laura in that sickbay, even though he knew there was a good chance he wasn't going to make it. The attempted conversion of the centurion, otoh, was partially that belief, but mostly just Baltar trying the old mindfuck routine that he's so good at.


Polter-Cow - Jun 10, 2008 7:55:25 am PDT #2891 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Super sekrit response to Glam: It's always FG!


le nubian - Jun 10, 2008 8:02:21 am PDT #2892 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I think I'm over Baltar at this point also. So over him. I really want him to die.

Kathy, I just don't buy that he has indeed become a true believer. Maybe we will see more evidence to this effect - at least scenes that will convince me, but he has gone back and forth and back and forth so much that I'm just not sure where he stands.


Hayden - Jun 10, 2008 8:29:34 am PDT #2893 of 30001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I had sort of hoped Baltar would die in the last episode, but only because I like what that would have done to Roslin's conscience. I like the gadfly role Baltar's playing, and liked him proselytizing to the Centurion. It was the only moment I can recall him doing something that wasn't nakedly self-interested on the surface, although I think there's a healthy dose of self-interest in the act. I think the character is trying to convince himself that he's really a prophetic voice by preaching when virtually no one is listening.